Hi Levente, I heard something about Docker containers which are like a
Squeak image except for an entire Linux server configuration. It can
be dropped into several different hosting services...
docker.com
Do you know anything about this or does it sound like a good idea?
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bradley M. Kuhn <bkuhn(a)sfconservancy.org>
Date: Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Server migration
To: Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de>
Cc: squeak(a)sfconservancy.org, SOB <board(a)squeak.org>, Levente Uzonyi
<leves(a)elte.hu>, tony(a)sfconservancy.org
Bert Freudenberg wrote on 9 January:
> we have migrated everything from the Hetzner server over to the Gandi
> servers. You can cancel that one, box2 is no more.
Ok, so to confirm, we should close the Hetzner account completely? I
want to be completely clear that's what I should do before I do it. :)
> We're sorry this could not wait until we have a Rackspace server, but
> the Hetzner server's disk was failing.
Understood.
> We will think about how to make server migration simpler in the
> future, because even Rackspace likely would not a permanent solution,
> right? Do you have recommendations for that?
Well, these donations come and go. Right now, Rackspace seems the most
willing to give lots of donated VPS. Once upon a time, it was Gandi who
was giving the most.
It's tough to know, but given that Squeak is pretty short on funds, I
think going with free is the way to go, so I think migrating to
Rackspace is the right option for now, when you have a cahnce.
--
Bradley M. Kuhn
President & Distinguished Technologist of Software Freedom Conservancy
I will still dig for the backups. In the meantime, of course, https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://people.squeakfoundation.org/ <https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://people.squeakfoundation.org/> might have it - a first glance shows that we got visited by their crawler quite often.
> On 4Feb, 2015, at 21:06, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. <jecel(a)merlintec.com> wrote:
>
> Friends,
>
> thank you for your time and effort in looking into this. Around 2004 I
> came up with a practical design for a hardware implementation of the
> Squeak VM and used the blog capabilities in SqueakPeople to describe the
> idea, hoping to start a discussion on the squeak-dev list (which didn't
> happen). Later on I added more details to my swiki:
>
> http://merlintec.com/swiki/hardware/27.html
>
> This complements what was on SqueakPeople rather than replacing it. I am
> now writing some texts that will include the same information. Sorry if
> I gave the impression that this (stuff like the list of special
> bytecodes compared to the list of binary selectors that are part of
> Slang) would be difficult to recreate. It wouldn't, so the original text
> is mostly interesting as a historical record.
>
> Many cheers,
> -- Jecel
>
> Case de Groot wrote:
>>
>> I did a quick scan of my on-line archives, but couldn?t find it. I?ll flag this mail and dig through some old hard disks I should have lying around, but that won?t be today. I should still have it, although not finding it in the expected places makes me wonder whether I didn?t accidentally lose it...
>>
>> Jecel - do you have a specific filename you are looking for?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Cees
>>
>>> On 3Feb, 2015, at 20:44, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Cees,
>>>
>>> I am trying to follow up on a request to recover some files related to SiliconSqueak
>>> from people.squeakfoundation.org for Jecel Assumpcao Jr.
>>>
>>> According to the wayback machine, SqueakPeople was active until 2008:
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20080514210052/http://people.squeakfoundation.o…
>>>
>>> The configuration files that I find on the current squeak.org servers seem to
>>> indicate that people.squeak.org was redirected to www.cdegroot.com:
>>>
>>> etc/service/tinydns/root/data.inS:Cpeople.squeakfoundation.org:www.cdegroot…
>>>
>>> And I think that this was a service that you originally were running:
>>>
>>> http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3060&sid=da5ee70598f9b00851eb9…
>>>
>>> So - by any chance do you have backups of that site, or perhaps even a
>>> current instance of it running somewhere? In particular, would you be
>>> able to help Jacel locate some files related to his SiliconSqueak work?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 11:34:33PM -0500, David T. Lewis wrote:
>>>> Hi Ken, hi Matthew,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for forwarding this. I am CC'ing the Squeak box-admins mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> I don't recall the details of how SqueakPeople was set up, but I think that
>>>> there is a very good chance that we can recover the data. Despite the recent
>>>> failure of our old server at Hetzner, Levente Uzonyi was able to save and
>>>> recover most of the original data.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 01:50:59PM -0700, Ken Causey wrote:
>>>>> I'm sorry I'm no longer involved in the Squeak project. I suggest that
>>>>> you contact David Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> .
>>>>>
>>>>> David: I vaguely remember that we kept a copy of the old SqueakPeople
>>>>> data on the Hetzner server. Unfortunately I don't really remember
>>>>> where. If my home directory is still there you might check there, you
>>>>> might also check in Cees' home directory and just generally look through
>>>>> the directories in /home, there may even still be a specific account for
>>>>> SqueakPeople that we left in place. Sorry I can't be of more help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>> Subject: Recovering old files from SqueakPeople
>>>>>> From: Tapple Gao <tapplek(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> Date: Sat, January 31, 2015 10:59 pm
>>>>>> To: ken(a)kencausey.com, jecel(a)merlintec.com
>>>>>> Cc: merik(a)me.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ken
>>>>>> I???m contacting you on behalf of Jecel. Jecel had some notes regarding SiliconSqueak that were hosted on SqueakPeople (http://people.squeakfoundation.org ). He does not have these notes elsewhere, and they would take a long time to reproduce. Now the site no longer exists, and we are looking to recover those notes. Do you have any backups of that website? Would you be able to help us recover those notes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ???
>>>>>> Tapple Gao (Matthew Fulmer)
>
Hi Ken, hi Matthew,
Thanks for forwarding this. I am CC'ing the Squeak box-admins mailing list.
I don't recall the details of how SqueakPeople was set up, but I think that
there is a very good chance that we can recover the data. Despite the recent
failure of our old server at Hetzner, Levente Uzonyi was able to save and
recover most of the original data.
Dave
On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 01:50:59PM -0700, Ken Causey wrote:
> I'm sorry I'm no longer involved in the Squeak project. I suggest that
> you contact David Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> .
>
> David: I vaguely remember that we kept a copy of the old SqueakPeople
> data on the Hetzner server. Unfortunately I don't really remember
> where. If my home directory is still there you might check there, you
> might also check in Cees' home directory and just generally look through
> the directories in /home, there may even still be a specific account for
> SqueakPeople that we left in place. Sorry I can't be of more help.
>
> Ken
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Recovering old files from SqueakPeople
> > From: Tapple Gao <tapplek(a)gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, January 31, 2015 10:59 pm
> > To: ken(a)kencausey.com, jecel(a)merlintec.com
> > Cc: merik(a)me.com
> >
> >
> > Hi Ken
> > I???m contacting you on behalf of Jecel. Jecel had some notes regarding SiliconSqueak that were hosted on SqueakPeople (http://people.squeakfoundation.org ). He does not have these notes elsewhere, and they would take a long time to reproduce. Now the site no longer exists, and we are looking to recover those notes. Do you have any backups of that website? Would you be able to help us recover those notes?
> >
> > ???
> > Tapple Gao (Matthew Fulmer)