if you don't stay in your bubble
     people could start turning up felons
oh really
i have no idea
well i'm against the idea
     i've seen what they do in there
have i ?       i've seen     things      pixels      i've seen pixels
     you people wouldn't believe
no you haven't
this is what happens when you let your prison people lobby congress
     to become sand ant traps
     roach motels
     fly paper pavilions
     for profit organizations
96.69% conviction rate
     they'll convict anybody
     even the prosecutors are sick and tired of always winning
     even they have started protesting the sickening win rate
     the deck is stacked with something and it aint chocolate
well it's a farm
     it's patterned after the slave trade
is it now
yes
you must be wrong
am i ?
well i wouldn't know       i know nothing


joke it's a

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 2:01 AM Kjell Godo <squeaklist@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> what we low info people do get up to hmph
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:59 AM Kjell Godo <squeaklist@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > "well this one is quite easily made readable if you drop it into a
> > Workspace and delete all the column inducing Carriage Return Line
> > Feeds
> > but you're not interested so just skip it"
> >
> > 'Object>>'
> >     someConfirm:aString
> >     place:place
> >     fNotNil:a2inputValua"<---[     [ :p :answer | ^answer ]<---[ [_]--
> > self's caller returns ? ] ]"
> >      ^(( KEGNotificationSomething
> >           place:place
> >           if_placeMatches:( a2InputValua ifNil:[ [ :place :answer |
> > ^answer ] ] )"<---[ [_]-- refactor ifNil: into Class ? ]"
> >        )signal:'NotifySomething Object>>someConfirm:place:ifNotNil:'
> >           with:[ :answer | ^answer ]"<---[ [_x ]-- a default ?^:( yes
> > no place check ) [_x ]-- delete this line ?^:( no ) ]"
> >        ) ifNil:[ self confirmSomething:aStringOrSomething ]"<---[
> > [_]-- ^ here just looks messy to me? ]"
> >          ifNotNil:[ :x | x
> > ]"<--------------------------------------------------[ [_]-- ^ here
> > just looks messy to me? ]"
> > 'BlockClosure>>'
> >       on:notification_seq
> >       doPlaceCheckSeq:placeReturnvalue_seq
> >       ^( self
> >           on:( self classForKEG:( notification_seq next )at:#(
> > BlockClosure on:doPlaceCheckSeq: ) )
> >           do:[ :e |
> >                ( ( e place )=( placeReturnvalue_seq next ) )
> >                       ifTrue:[ e if_placeMatches value:place
> > value:( placeReturnvalue_seq next ) ]"<---[ [_]-- transpose? ]"
> >                       ifFalse:[ self errorKEG:'( callerError:--(
> > TestCase>>test )test place mis match )' ]
> >                 ]"<---[ yes i think that this is better . i kept on
> > balking at all those throw:at:s . too complicated too much repetition
> > too many fiddley bits ]
> >  [_x ]-- this is better than that throw thing?^:( yes i think so )"
> >        test           ( self throw:returnVal at:#message ).( test
> > )"<---[ is proliferation of throwing yuk Yuk ko ]"
> >
> >         test           [ test-1 ]on:KEGNotificationSomething do:[ :e |
> > e tag value:returnVal ]"<---[ the no place check default ]"
> >
> >         test           #( ( NotifiClassName1 place1 false )(
> > NotifiClassName2 place2 returnBool2 )
> >                              ( NotifiClassName3 place3 true )(
> > NotifiClassName4 place4 true )
> >                              ( NotifiClassName5 place5 false )(
> > NotifiClassName6 place6 true )
> >                              ( NotifiClassName7 place7 false )(
> > NotifiClassName8 place8 true )... etc
> >                            )orSomething asGen transpose reset
> > ifNotNil:[ :notificationPlaceReturn_gen |
> >                                "<------------------------------------[
> > >>on:doPlaceCheckSeq: does no initial reset ]"
> >                                [ test-1.notificationPlaceReturn_gen
> > reset ."<---[ reuse the test array for each test ][ or don't ]"
> >                                  test-2.notificationPlaceReturn_gen reset .
> >                                  "..."
> >                                  test-N
> >                                ]on: notificationPlaceReturn_gen"<---[
> > or ( #Notification asGen repeatInfinite ) ]"
> >                                 doPlaceCheckSeq: notificationPlaceReturn_gen
> >
> >          ClassName>>someMethod"<---[ called by test-i ]" ...
> >               ( self someConfirm:'Please Confirm blablabla'
> >                        place:#( ClassName someMethod 1 )
> >                        ifNotNil:nil )"<---[ nil --> [:p :a | ^a ] is the default
> >                                                    or      [ :place
> > :answer | something ] is notNil and could be used for _? ]
> >
> >  [ x ]-- if you do not have the latest KEGGenerator giant Package
> > cluster _ then you could rig up some Stream hack job also
> >          or if there is some alternative or just whip out a
> > to:by:do:        and be done with it       in two seconds  flat   why
> > worry
> >          why should you have to learn this  f yet another thing
> > and it's large     it's large     it is large             it's mostly
> > comments
> >          but just go to implementorsOf: test_transepose
> >          or something                   he doesn't know
> >       i didn't know
> >          and
> > BAM you know everything        no you don't that's false advertising
> > maybe some what false   i forget
> >          i have not been    wwwaaaasting my time again since then enough
> >
> > the whole thing shoulda been written in CommonLisp et all       much
> > faster      or lambdaOOP
> >          just forget about it
> >
> > but i will use this Notify idea     because why because it's better
> >     as in way better
> >          better enough to rip out the old thing ? yes i think so
> >          instead of all that throwing at: that i was doing      mostly
> > not doing     and always going no don't do that again upon doing
> >
> > sorry for wasting your time      i know how you feel      do i       f
> > do i know anything probably not so
> >
> > ignore ignore ignore
> >
> > everybody
> >
> > ok
> >
> > enough
> >
> > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:50 AM Kjell Godo <squeaklist@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > is the archived version not squashed     where is the archive
> > >
> > > stay in your bubble no
> > >
> > > autist comin through
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:46 AM Kjell Godo <squeaklist@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > yeah that's what i really wanted     it to do
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:46 AM Kjell Godo <squeaklist@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > is that ai for you
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:45 AM Kjell Godo <squeaklist@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wow
> > > > > >
> > > > > > that thing got squashed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > completely unreadable      now      just as well
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pfff i shoulda copied it and pasted it first
> > > > > >
> > > > > > just forget about it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:39 AM Kjell Godo <squeaklist@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Object>>
> > > > > > >     someConfirm:aString
> > > > > > >     place:place
> > > > > > >     fNotNil:a2inputValua"<---[     [ :p :answer | ^answer ]<---[ [_]--
> > > > > > > self's caller returns ? ] ]"
> > > > > > >      ^(( KEGNotificationSomething
> > > > > > >           place:place
> > > > > > >           if_placeMatches:( a2InputValua ifNil:[ [ :place :answer |
> > > > > > > ^answer ] ] )"<---[ [_]-- refactor ifNil: into Class ? ]"
> > > > > > >        )signal:'NotifySomething Object>>someConfirm:place:ifNotNil:'
> > > > > > >           with:[ :answer | ^answer ]"<---[ [_x ]-- a default ?^:( yes
> > > > > > > no place check ) [_x ]-- delete this line ?^:( no ) ]"
> > > > > > >        ) ifNil:[ self confirmSomething:aStringOrSomething ]"<---[
> > > > > > > [_]-- ^ here just looks messy to me? ]"
> > > > > > >          ifNotNil:[ :x | x
> > > > > > > ]"<--------------------------------------------------[ [_]-- ^ here
> > > > > > > just looks messy to me? ]"
> > > > > > > BlockClosure>>
> > > > > > >       on:notification_seq
> > > > > > >       doPlaceCheckSeq:placeReturnvalue_seq
> > > > > > >       ^( self
> > > > > > >           on:( self classForKEG:( notification_seq next )at:#(
> > > > > > > BlockClosure on:doPlaceCheckSeq: ) )
> > > > > > >           do:[ :e |
> > > > > > >                ( ( e place )=( placeReturnvalue_seq next ) )
> > > > > > >                       ifTrue:[ e if_placeMatches value:place
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > value:( placeReturnvalue_seq next ) ]"<---[ [_]-- transpose? ]"
> > > > > > >                       ifFalse:[ self errorKEG:'( callerError:--(
> > > > > > > TestCase>>test )test place mis match )' ]
> > > > > > >                 ]"<---[ yes i think that this is better . i kept on
> > > > > > > balking at all those throw:at:s . too complicated too much
> > > > > > >                           repetition too many fiddley bits ]"
> > > > > > > [_x ]-- this is better than that throw thing?^:( yes i think so )
> > > > > > >         test           ( self throw:returnVal at:#message ).( test
> > > > > > > )"<---[ is proliferation of throwing yuk Yuk ko ]"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >         test           [ test-1 ]on:KEGNotificationSomething do:[ :e |
> > > > > > > e tag value:returnVal ]"<---[ the no place check default ]"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >         test           #( ( NotifiClassName1 place1 false )(
> > > > > > > NotifiClassName2 place2 returnBool2 )
> > > > > > >                              ( NotifiClassName3 place3 true )(
> > > > > > > NotifiClassName4 place4 true )
> > > > > > >                              ( NotifiClassName5 place5 false )(
> > > > > > > NotifiClassName6 place6 true )
> > > > > > >                              ( NotifiClassName7 place7 false )(
> > > > > > > NotifiClassName8 place8 true )... etc
> > > > > > >                            )orSomething asGen transpose reset
> > > > > > > ifNotNil:[ :notificationPlaceReturn_gen |
> > > > > > >                                "<------------------------------------[
> > > > > > > >>on:doPlaceCheckSeq: does no initial reset ]"
> > > > > > >                                [ test-1.notificationPlaceReturn_gen
> > > > > > > reset ."<---[ reuse the test array for each test ][ or don't ]"
> > > > > > >                                  test-2.notificationPlaceReturn_gen reset .
> > > > > > >                                  ...
> > > > > > >                                  test-N
> > > > > > >                                ]on:
> > > > > > > notificationPlaceReturn_gen"<---[ or ( #Notification asGen
> > > > > > > repeatInfinite ) ]"
> > > > > > >                                 doPlaceCheckSeq:notificationPlaceReturn_gen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >          ClassName>>someMethod"<---[ called by test-i ]" ...
> > > > > > >               ( self someConfirm:'Please Confirm blablabla'
> > > > > > >                        place:#( ClassName someMethod 1 )
> > > > > > >                        ifNotNil:nil )"<---[ nil --> [:p :a | ^a ] is the default
> > > > > > >                                                    or      [ :place
> > > > > > > :answer | something ] is notNil and could be used for _? ]"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [ x ]-- if you do not have the latest KEGGenerator giant Package
> > > > > > > cluster _ then you could rig up some Stream hack job also
> > > > > > >          or if there is some alternative or just whip out a
> > > > > > > to:by:do:        and be done with it       in two seconds  flat   why
> > > > > > > worry
> > > > > > >          why should you have to learn this  f yet another thing
> > > > > > > and it's large     it's large     it is large             it's mostly
> > > > > > > comments
> > > > > > >          but just go to implementorsOf: test_transepose
> > > > > > >          or something                   he doesn't know
> > > > > > >        i didn't know
> > > > > > >          and
> > > > > > > BAM you know everything        no you don't that's false advertising
> > > > > > >   maybe some what false   i forget
> > > > > > >          i have not been    wwwaaaasting my time again since then         enough
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the whole thing shoulda been written in CommonLisp et all       much
> > > > > > > faster      or lambdaOOP
> > > > > > >          just forget about it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but i will use this Notify idea     because why because it's better
> > > > > > >   as in way better
> > > > > > >          better enough to rip out the old thing ? yes i think so
> > > > > > >          instead of all that throwing at: that i was doing mostly not
> > > > > > > doing and always going no don't do that again upon doing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sorry for wasting your time      i know how you feel      do i       f
> > > > > > > do i know anything probably not so
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ignore ignore ignore
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > everybody
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ok
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > enough
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 4:27 AM
> > > > > > > <christoph.thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Seems to me an UI interaction is an event, not an exception. I’m all about making first class objects spit events so the container he’s in responds appropriately.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sure, but something like an "information" or a "request to choose a folder" is not necessarily answered by the user but might be handled by an automator or a test instead. Exceptions are also first-class objects. But it might be another interesting to think about a UI system where all events (every mouse movement, click, keyboard press, etc.) are modeled through exceptions ... How could such a system look like? :D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > Christoph
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 2023-05-17T23:22:10+00:00, rabbit@callistohouse.org wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Heh. I meant to type: “I “do not understand Exceptions (or Continuations) (or stacks)…”
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ❤️‍🔥🐰
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 19:20, rabbit <[rabbit(a)callistohouse.org](mailto:On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 19:20, rabbit <<a href=)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also an interesting idea. I like to use events.I do not underestimate Exceptions, except basic use. Seems to me an UI interaction is an event, not an exception. I’m all about making first class objects spit events so the container he’s in responds appropriately.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What I really want is an eventual UI, along with the ability to have more than one instance of a VatProcessScheduler operating on a particular core.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ❤️‍🔥🐰
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 17:57, <[christoph.thiede(a)student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de](mailto:On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 17:57,  <<a href=)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> Interesting idea ... and you could mock/override that user for tests. On the other hand, I was planning to implement all UIManager requests as Exceptions/Notifications (pluggable, nestable, catchable, etc.) ...
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Best,
> > > > > > > > > >> Christoph
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> On 2023-05-17T19:46:17+00:00, rabbit(a)callistohouse.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Cool beans. Got me thinking about Croquet. Would it provide more congruity to have a User object, with multiple views of a space (audio, video,text msg, LinkedIn feed) and be able to send #inform: and #confirm: to theUser?
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> ❤️‍🔥🐰
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 14:38, <[christoph.thiede(a)student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de](mailto:On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 14:38, <<a href=)> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> > =============== Summary ===============
> > > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > Change Set: UIManagerInformTitle
> > > > > > > > > >>> > Date: 17 May 2023
> > > > > > > > > >>> > Author: Christoph Thiede
> > > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > Adds UIManager>>#inform:title:, analogously to existing #confirm:title.
> > > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > Project uiManager inform: 'Squeak is great!' title: 'Important Note'
> > > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > =============== Diff ===============
> > > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > DummyUIManager>>inform:title: {ui requests} · ct 5/14/2023 21:27
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + inform: aString title: titleString
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + "Nothing to be done here"
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + self askForProvidedAnswerTo: aString ifSupplied: [:answer |
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + ^ answer].
> > > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > MVCUIManager>>inform:title: {ui requests} · ct 5/14/2023 21:27
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + inform: aString title: titleString
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + "Display a message for the user to read and then dismiss"
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + self askForProvidedAnswerTo: aString ifSupplied: [:answer |
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + ^ answer].
> > > > > > > > > >>> > +
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + ^ PopUpMenu inform: (self dialogStringFromQuery: aString withTitle: titleString)
> > > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > MorphicUIManager>>inform:title: {ui requests} · ct 5/14/2023 21:26
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + inform: aString title: titleString
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + "Display a message for the user to read and then dismiss"
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + self askForProvidedAnswerTo: aString ifSupplied: [:answer |
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + ^ answer].
> > > > > > > > > >>> > +
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + ^ UserDialogBoxMorph inform: aString title: titleString
> > > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > UIManager>>inform:title: {ui requests} · ct 5/14/2023 21:27
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + inform: aString title: titleString
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + "Display a message for the user to read and then dismiss"
> > > > > > > > > >>> > + ^self subclassResponsibility
> > > > > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > > > > >>> > ---Sent from [Squeak Inbox Talk](https://github.com/hpi-swa-lab/squeak-inbox-talk)
> > > > > > > > > >>> > ["UIManagerInformTitle.1.cs"]
> > > > > > > >