You know, I just noticed that the new site does not have "What's New" section.
What else did the old site have that new site doesn't? It's hard to tell, because, unfortunately after having a digital presence on the web for over a decade, someone arbitrarily took the site down without warning or discussion.
Now, the new site is running from the same persons personal directory on box3, and he has excluded even READ permission to the directory for all but himself.
I was pretty much over my soreness about this until I just now saw Abuzar couldn't finish the tutorial. Chris C., thanks again for taking the website ball and running with it. Could you please loosen your grip a bit and help us _transition_ to your new site more gradually by putting the old site back up and running on box2? For professionalism, not sentimentality. See if you can generate a positive feedback loop in the community toward our web-presence, with you as the conduit for instrumenting the changes (and/or a way to delegate to others who can have access to do it).
Thank you!
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote:
Can we help abuzar?
Begin forwarded message:
From: Abuzar abuzar@abuzar.com Subject: [Newbies] Re: Website change, Squeek by Example Game? Date: 21. März 2014 14:20:26 MEZ To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Reply-To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about Squeak." beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Delivered-To: list-beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Hi all,
I'm still looking for that specific tutorial, and a recommendation on whether it's obsolete or other advice. A response would be appreciated.
Thanks, Abuzar
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Abuzar abuzar@abuzar.com wrote:
Hi all,
I was going through a squeek-by-example tutorial. Not the .pdf book. It was a simple game tutorial on the Documentation page. After the website changeover, it has seemingly disappeared. Is it now obsolete? or no longer recommended?
I'm also noticing that Squeak 4.5 is rolling out. Is this a big change? Should I hold off going through tutorials until they're updated?
Abuzar
Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
http://web.archive.org/web/20131029062210/http://www.squeak.org/
Ron
-----Original Message----- From: squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:squeak- dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Chris Muller Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 11:32 AM To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; Squeak Web Team list Subject: [squeak-dev] What else is different in the new site? (was: Website change, Squeek by Example Game?)
You know, I just noticed that the new site does not have "What's New" section.
What else did the old site have that new site doesn't? It's hard to tell, because, unfortunately after having a digital presence on the web for over a decade, someone arbitrarily took the site down without warning or discussion.
Now, the new site is running from the same persons personal directory on box3, and he has excluded even READ permission to the directory for all but himself.
I was pretty much over my soreness about this until I just now saw Abuzar couldn't finish the tutorial. Chris C., thanks again for taking the website ball and running with it. Could you please loosen your grip a bit and help us _transition_ to your new site more gradually by putting the old site back up and running on box2? For professionalism, not sentimentality. See if you can generate a positive feedback loop in the community toward our web- presence, with you as the conduit for instrumenting the changes (and/or a way to delegate to others who can have access to do it).
Thank you!
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote:
Can we help abuzar?
Begin forwarded message:
From: Abuzar abuzar@abuzar.com Subject: [Newbies] Re: Website change, Squeek by Example Game? Date: 21. März 2014 14:20:26 MEZ To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Reply-To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about Squeak." beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Delivered-To: list-beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Hi all,
I'm still looking for that specific tutorial, and a recommendation on whether it's obsolete or other advice. A response would be appreciated.
Thanks, Abuzar
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Abuzar abuzar@abuzar.com
wrote:
Hi all,
I was going through a squeek-by-example tutorial. Not the .pdf book. It was a simple game tutorial on the Documentation page. After the website changeover, it has seemingly disappeared. Is it now obsolete? or no longer recommended?
I'm also noticing that Squeak 4.5 is rolling out. Is this a big change? Should I hold off going through tutorials until they're updated?
Abuzar
Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
On 3/21/14, Chris Muller asqueaker@gmail.com wrote:
You know, I just noticed that the new site does not have "What's New" section.
What else did the old site have that new site doesn't? It's hard to tell, because, unfortunately after having a digital presence on the web for over a decade, someone arbitrarily took the site down without warning or discussion.
not arbitrary, because there was quite a lot of discussion on and off about the new design during the last 12...18 months.
The new site was shown as a test version as well. And people liked it.
Now, the new site is running from the same persons personal directory on box3, and he has excluded even READ permission to the directory for all but himself.
I was pretty much over my soreness about this until I just now saw Abuzar couldn't finish the tutorial. Chris C., thanks again for taking the website ball and running with it. Could you please loosen your grip a bit and help us _transition_ to your new site more gradually by putting the old site back up and running on box2? For professionalism, not sentimentality. See if you can generate a positive feedback loop in the community toward our web-presence, with you as the conduit for instrumenting the changes (and/or a way to delegate to others who can have access to do it).
Thank you!
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Tobias Pape Das.Linux@gmx.de wrote:
Can we help abuzar?
Begin forwarded message:
From: Abuzar abuzar@abuzar.com Subject: [Newbies] Re: Website change, Squeek by Example Game? Date: 21. März 2014 14:20:26 MEZ To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Reply-To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about Squeak." beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Delivered-To: list-beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Hi all,
I'm still looking for that specific tutorial, and a recommendation on whether it's obsolete or other advice. A response would be appreciated.
Thanks, Abuzar
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Abuzar abuzar@abuzar.com wrote:
Hi all,
I was going through a squeek-by-example tutorial. Not the .pdf book. It was a simple game tutorial on the Documentation page. After the website changeover, it has seemingly disappeared. Is it now obsolete? or no longer recommended?
I'm also noticing that Squeak 4.5 is rolling out. Is this a big change? Should I hold off going through tutorials until they're updated?
Abuzar
Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:40 PM, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/21/14, Chris Muller asqueaker@gmail.com wrote:
You know, I just noticed that the new site does not have "What's New" section.
What else did the old site have that new site doesn't? It's hard to tell, because, unfortunately after having a digital presence on the web for over a decade, someone arbitrarily took the site down without warning or discussion.
not arbitrary, because there was quite a lot of discussion on and off about the new design during the last 12...18 months.
The new site was shown as a test version as well. And people liked it.
Hi Hannes, let me reiterate my compliments about the new site.
But I am not talking about the new site. I am talking about the OLD site, which belongs to the squeak.org community.
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