[Newbies] Re: license

[stéphane ducasse]

In fact in earlier version of Squeak Apple fonts were used.
So now this clause does not hold anymore.

> Hi, I'm reading the squeak licence, and there are several points tha I
> don't fully understand.

:)

> "2. Permitted Uses and Restrictions. This License allows you to copy,
> install and use the Apple Software on an unlimited number of computers
> under your direct control. You may modify and create derivative works
> of the Apple Software ("Modified Software"), however, you may not
> modify or create derivative works of the fonts provided by Apple
> ("Fonts"). ..."
>
> **************
> By "Fonts" it refers to the source of squeak? to the image? to the
> original clases?
> **************
>
> "...You may distribute and sublicense such Modified Software only
> under the terms of a valid, binding license that makes no
> representations or warranties on behalf of Apple, and is no less
> protective of Apple and Apple's rights than this License. You may
> distribute and sublicense the Fonts only as a part of and for use with
> Modified Software, and not as a part of or for use with Modified
> Software that is distributed or sublicensed for a fee or for other
> valuable consideration...."
>
> **************
> I cannot distribute the fonts if I charge my client for it?, again,  
> fonts = ??
> **************
>
> "...If the Modified Software contains modifications, overwrites,
> replacements, deletions, additions, or ports to new platforms of: (1)
> the methods of existing class objects or their existing relationships,
> or (2) any part of the virtual machine, then for so long as the
> Modified Software is distributed or sublicensed to others, such
> modified, overwritten, replaced, deleted, added and ported portions of
> the Modified Software must be made publicly available, preferably by
> means of download from a website, at no charge under the terms set
> forth in Exhibit A below. ..."
>
> **************
> "Modified Software" reffers to modification to the fonts? For example
> if I modify the Class Object, I must do it public, but, and here is my
> question, if I extend Object whith my own class, must I do it publict
> or no?
> **************

Basically the point is that if you improve the system you should  
normally
give it to the community but nobody will check your harddisk.
However if you fix something and help improving squeak then the next  
time
it will be fixed and better :)

>
> "...You may transfer your rights under this License provided you
> transfer this License and a copy of the Apple Software to a party who
> agrees to accept the terms of this License and destroy any other
> copies of the Apple Software in your possession. Your rights under
> this License will terminate automatically without notice from Apple if
> you fail to comply with any term(s) of this License."
>
> On 8/15/06, Ron Teitelbaum <Ron at usmedrec.com> wrote:
>> Esteban,
>>
>> The simple answer to your question is you are free to do with squeak
>> anything you want.
>>
>> The long answer is your mileage may very since I'm not a lawyer  
>> and I'm not
>> giving you any legal advice.  So if you are concerned you should  
>> contact a
>> lawyer.
>>
>> You would not be the first one to be concerned about the squeakL  
>> from apple.
>> The community working hard to change that and we have made some  
>> progress.
>> The most likely outcome is http://www.opensource.apple.com/apsl/ 
>> 2.0.txt .
>> But the community was mostly interested in MIT:
>> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php
>>
>> Read carefully,
>>
>> I hope that helps!
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: beginners-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org  
>> [mailto:beginners-
>> > bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Esteban Robles  
>> Luna
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:54 PM
>> > To: Beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> > Subject: [Newbies] Re: license
>> >
>> > May be the subject deserves more explanation.
>> > I'm working with squeak and seaside for one of my clients. After I
>> > have decided to implement the system in squeak and seaside one
>> > question come up to my mind. Is there any restrictions in the  
>> use of
>> > squeak for commercial purpose. I dont understand well the apple
>> > license.
>> > I hope someone help me
>> > Regards
>> > Esteban
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/15/06, Esteban Robles Luna <esteban.roblesluna at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>> > > Hi list,
>> > > I want to know if I can develop and deploy an application in  
>> squeak,
>> > > charging the client with the cost of the development?
>> > > Regards
>> > > Esteban
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Saludos
>> > Esteban
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>
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