[Newbies] Making cultural simulations in Squeak with Kedama

[Marcus Denker]

>
> I tried using first the SqueakAtenex.image from the Extremadura  
> project, because it's what my students and me used the last  
> semester, but remaking the Epidemic example I found that there is a  
> problem with the Kedama  menu translation of Kedama in that image.  
> In the english version you can see four options in the viewer of  
> the Kedama Turtle: "kedama turtle", "scripts", "kedama turtle  
> breed" and "kedama turtle color". In the Atenex image you can see  
> four also in that viewer, but one of them is repeated ("kedama  
> turtle") and "kedama turtle breed" is absent. It seems that "kedama  
> turtle breed" was translated as "tortuga kedama" ("kedama turtle"),  
> so adding a turtle is possible, but not increasing the amount of  
> turtles in a breed (at lest not as is explained in the documentation).
>

I think the Kedama in SqueakLand Squeak has been updated from the one  
in the Extramadura version,

> So I tried then the Squeak3.8-6665full.image but Kedama is not  
> available from the object catalog. Trying to update from server  
> says that no updates are available from server and using the Squeak  
> Map I can`t find Kedama either. ¿How can I find/install the Kedama  
> if its not available in the object catalog of an image?
>

Kedama is, as much as I know, not available for 3.8. (maybe there is  
an old version somewhere).

> Then I tried Squeak3.9g-7054.image and Squeak3.9b-7051.image  
> installed from squeakland directly (without using any deb  
> repository for Ubuntu) and Kedama is there and I can reproduce the  
> Epidemic simulation example, but anytime I tried to open a *.pr  
> project I get some error messages about "MessageNotUnderstood:  
> SmallInteger>>removeKey:ifAbsent:"
> and other one about fonts. I can made the pr files run (after  
> getting a lot of that messages with the "Abandon" window), but some  
> of them can't run in with the "go" button for example (I need to  
> locate the proper scripts and make them ticking).
>

In 3.9, we put some effort into merging  all changes from squeakland  
and extramadura into the standard Squeak release.
Sadly 3.9 brakes backwards compatibility for project loading (.pr  
files)... this is unfortunate, and I don't know if this will ever get  
fixed.

A problem is a bit that both the squeakland and extramadura people  
did not join the 3.9 effort in any way, so all the eToy things are  
very likely
not much tested.

       Marcus
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: smime.p7s
Type: application/pkcs7-signature
Size: 3938 bytes
Desc: not available
Url : http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/attachments/20060824/d6c6e151/smime-0001.bin