[Newbies] Squeak in commercial projects
bert at freudenbergs.de
Tue Mar 6 21:14:05 UTC 2007
You could buy impara's Plopp (made in Squeak), and if you find it
secure enough, contact them for how they did it:
- Bert -
On Mar 6, 2007, at 21:10 , Jens Pall wrote:
> Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
>> Hi JP,
>> This is not an easy question. There are a number of things that
>> you need to
>> consider. First you need to decide how secure the update needs to
>> be. If
>> you are not worried about security then you have a much easier job
>> and many
>> more options. In general Squeak is not secure, but it is also not
>> secure then many other tools that are sent to end users.
>> So first answer some questions.
>> Is your system likely to be used by people that are interested in
>> the system?
> Some of the end-users might try this but most of them will not.
> They just want a system that works and does its job. We are working
> with partners who are distributing our software and I know that
> some of them will try to open up the software, modify it and, in
> some cases, try to sell it as their own if it is easy to get at the
> source. If the source is not available and it is a bit hard to get
> access to the developing interface then I believe this risk is
> greatly reduced.
>> Does your system have access to network facilities that attach to
>> installations of your system?
> Yes. This is a distributed networked application. It lives and
> breathes on the network.
>> Are you concerned that someone might try to build a patch and
>> upload that
>> code to your system installations? (i.e. spyware, worms, viruses)
> Well, not really. Our installations mainly run on private WAN
> networks owned by the customer but you never know what malicious
> internal users might do. We plan on being able to run this over the
> Internet where this is a major concern but will try to limit it by
> using secure network connections.
>> Are you trying to prevent users from using features of your system
>> authorization? (i.e. Try before you buy?)
> Yes. We must be able to issue licenses for using features of the
>> There are no easy answers but I do believe it is a very interesting
> It indeed is and one that needs to be addressed if Squeak is to be
> seriously considered as a commercial vehicle. It has huge potential
> in that area if the proper hooks are in place.
> As a side note I might mention that our current system is
> implemented in C++ and, if it turns out to be possible with respect
> to the topic of this thread, we are seriously considering porting
> it to Squeak. Croquet will also play a major role as the
> monitoring / management tool.
>> Ron Teitelbaum
>> President / Principal Software Engineer
>> US Medical Record Specialists
>> www.usmedrec.com Squeak Cryptography Team Leader
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: beginners-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>> bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Jens Pall
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:09 AM
>>> To: Squeak Beginners
>>> Subject: [Newbies] Squeak in commercial projects
>>> How can I use Squeak in a commercial closed source project (whole
>>> How about upgrades? I want to be able to send an upgrade to the
>>> which only contains the changed code.
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