[Newbies] Re: squeak 'wysiwyg' application?

[Klaus D. Witzel]

On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:59:35 +0200, Sven Schott wrote:

> Sorry, another beginner here. :)

Welcome Sven :)

> I've installed Scamper(12) several times (I'm on the 3.9.1-final-7075  
> image
> for Mac) but when I try to run it I get and UndefinedObject parse: error.
> I'm guessing that's the equivalent of my beloved NilObject thing in Ruby
> (message passed to a null reference).
>
> Any ideas?

Sure ;) In SqueakMap the packages usually list their dependencies, have  
you checked that required packages are already loaded. If so then I'd  
suggest you contact the package's maintainer, Scamper(12) says that it  
runs in the 3.9 .images and I'm sure they can help you.

>
> Also, I find that many of the libraries aren't updated for 3.9 yet (3.10  
> has
> been released so it don't inspire confidence). Is this just a hiccup or  
> are
> many of the libraries not updated. Also, is stuff broken so quickly  
> between releases?

There is a concerted initiative, Squeak-dev and Squeak-web .images  
containing Universe, in which authors provide a one-click-load experience  
for things to run out-of-the-box. You might want to check the most recent  
releases,

-  
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-April/127393.html

If you want to have another package added to that list I'd suggest you  
consider contacting the package's maintainer.

> On 4/13/08, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:48:44 +0200, David Goldstrom wrote:
>>
>>  Klaus,
>> >  Thanks for the suggestion.  I found Scamper and installed it, but how
>> > do you start it? I tried "Scamper open", start, etc... and "Do It" but
>> > no luck :-). I'm sure it's obvious, but I haven't quite got it yet.
>> >
>>
>> It should register itself in the World menu (open->) and also in the  
>> tools
>> flap (drag it out).
>>
>>  Thanks for pointing me to Sophie. I can navigate to the developers site
>> > and the latest sources for sophie, but then I find myself wondering
>> > which .mcz files to download and install?
>> >
>>
>> I think that Sophie brings a lot of stuff in its dedicated .image, just
>> download it (linked from the homepage) for your platform. They have also
>> docs for the developer,
>>
>> - http://dev.sophieproject.org/?q=book
>>
>>  Any suggestions are much appreciated :-). Thanks again,
>> > David
>> >
>>
>> You're welcome :)
>>
>>  --- "Klaus D. Witzel" wrote:
>> >
>> > > There's a video about Sophie in action, a Squeak wysiwyg  
>> application,
>> > >
>> > > - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag59IDi3dgQ
>> > >
>> > > and Sophie's home page is here,
>> > >
>> > > - http://sophieproject.org/
>> > >
>> > > Look for Scamper, I think it's on SqueakMap (it may depend on your
>> > > Squeak
>> > > version).
>> > >
>> > > Enjoy Squeak :)
>> > >
>> > > /Klaus
>> > >
>> > > > Thanks in advance,
>> > > > David G.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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