[Newbies] Re: Squeak Guilt

Claus Kick claus_kick at web.de
Tue Dec 16 20:43:41 UTC 2008

Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:50:58 +0100, Claus Kick wrote:
>> Mark Volkmann wrote:
>>> That sounds great for applications with a web interface, but I wish   
>>> there was a more attractive, easier way to do the same thing with   
>>> Squeak-based non-web applications.
>> I think that is mainly a problem of Squeak though, not Smalltalk in  
>> general. I fully agree though, the UI system of Squeak is just not good.
> Does it just look not good to you (have you checked  
> UI-Enhancements/Polymorph) or what part of it do you mean?

No, I have yet to check Polymorph. I must be blind, but I dont see it on 
SqueakMap - where is it?

Other than the looks, I do not like the "feeling", the speed, the 
absence of native widgets (why do everything yourself? you have an OS to 
participate from!)

I know, even Cincom canned their "first new owner-drawn system, then on 
top of that native widgets if the platform allows"-Projects 
(Pollock/Panda/Chagall). Having worked a bit in that direction, I also 
know how tedious or more likely impossible a task this is.

Still, one has dreams or graphics contexts being written to the GPU 
directly ... hm, sounds like OpenGL, doesnt it?

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