[Newbies] Re: Squeak Guilt

Rob Rothwell r.j.rothwell at gmail.com
Tue Dec 16 23:24:23 UTC 2008

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Claus Kick <claus_kick at web.de> wrote:

> Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:50:58 +0100, Claus Kick wrote:
> Other than the looks, I do not like the "feeling", the speed, the absence
> of native widgets (why do everything yourself? you have an OS to participate
> from!)

I really like WxSqueak (http://www.wxsqueak.org; make sure to use the 0.5.1
version for the best experience!), I just wish I had a little more energy to
be able to load it into a "current" Squeak system to take advantage of the
new development tools.  However, if you don't mind programming in a 3.8?
image, you should check it out.  It takes a custom VM as well, and I have
had a hard time loading all the "goodies" I wanted into an image.

> I know, even Cincom canned their "first new owner-drawn system, then on top
> of that native widgets if the platform allows"-Projects
> (Pollock/Panda/Chagall). Having worked a bit in that direction, I also know
> how tedious or more likely impossible a task this is.
> Still, one has dreams or graphics contexts being written to the GPU
> directly ... hm, sounds like OpenGL, doesnt it?

I don't think you can do that in WxSqueak, but you can do some alpha

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