[Newbies] The bouncing sound

[Scott Wallace]

On Feb 23, 2008, at 11:03 PM, polishookm wrote:

> .... One more question that seems to have come up. The student found  
> today that saving the project in 3.9 (as a PR) doesn't seem to be  
> reliable. At least that's the report I have. The symptom  
> specifically, is some of the tiles that trigger on and off scripts  
> don't seem to work after being saved into a PR file (and then being  
> reloaded). I have no idea at the moment is this is the inexperience  
> of someone new to Squeak or if its something else. From the  
> students' experience, saving the project to a PR file is disabling  
> some scripts whereas saving it in an image seems to be just fine.

I have almost no experience with etoys in 3.9, so can't speak to this  
issue -- sorry.

I've not heard of such issues arising in the versions of Squeak in  
which the etoys piece has been actively maintained, i.e. Squeakland  
and olpc/etoys.  It would be interesting to hear if your students  
encounter the same problems using one of those systems -- if so,  
please send along a project illustrating the problem.

Finally, one last time, if you want a modern, up-to-date, documented,  
*supported* etoys experience, you'd be well advised to use the olpc/ 
etoys squeak image (or the forthcoming Squeakland release derived from  
that).  These are *not* dumbed-down Squeaks; the "dev" versions are  
full-scale, industrial-strength Squeak systems, encompassing all of  
3.8, plus Connectors, and incorporating countless enhancements and  
fixes.  And a responsible and responsive development team.  And,  
blessedly, an update stream.

There are two mailing lists devoted to uses of Squeak in education --  
see:

http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland

http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys


Cheers,

   -- Scott