[Newbies] Totally dumbfounded!!

David Zmick dz0004455 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 4 13:38:40 UTC 2008

first of all, u\you should read Squeak By Example.  Most book don't teach
how to make things like that because in smalltalk, since you can browse all
of the source code from within the environment, you can figure out how to
make things like windows, or, anything in m\smalltalk, without having to
look it up!  that is one of the reasons I like smalltalk, you dont need any
large reference manuals to work :)

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Michael van der Gulik <mikevdg at gmail.com>

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:04:52 +0800
> Stephen Ng <stephen.ng at planetnutek.com> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > First off, I am really new to smalltalk. I have tons of experience
> > with languages like C but have never made the move to OO type languages.
> >
> > Secondly, I've been reading up as much as I can on OO concepts and
> > perhaps I can say that I feel comfortable with smalltalk syntax. My
> > question is how does one start learning about the MVC or Morphic
> > interfaces in order to use smalltalk in writing programs that make use
> > of lots of windows with text fields etc like in traditional business
> > systems? I cannot seem to find complete info on these topics. Many
> > tutorials just spend lots of time painting pretty lines and patterns
> > and fall short of showing someone like me how best to use the MVC,
> > Graphics-* or Morphic-* class categories and their classes. I
> > understand Morphic is the new wave as far as Squeak is concerned and I
> > would be just as happy to use it. However, all the literature on the
> > web is really disparate and does not approach the subject in a
> > holistic way. I've even tried looking at the classes themselves in the
> > Browser but the whole thing just gets very confusing.
> >
> > I'd appreciate it if anyone can provide some pointers, direction,
> > literature (up to date with Squeak) etc.
> Hi Stephen.
> Welcome to the community!
> For traditional business programs in Squeak, I think that Morphic is the
> hard way to do it. I tried, made a bit of progress but then gave up in
> disgust.
> What I recommend is that you start from our documentation page -
> http://www.squeak.org/Documentation/. The book to read is "Squeak By
> Example".
> For business information system development, I'd recommend getting in to
> web development using Seaside: http://www.seaside.st/. Your applications
> in this environment will look a lot more professional than they would in
> Morphic.
> And do ask questions here, or join us on the IRC channel on freenode.net,
> #squeak. Often there are people there :-).
> Gulik.
> --
> Michael van der Gulik <mikevdg at gmail.com>
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