[Newbies] Totally dumbfounded!!

Stephen Ng stephen.ng at planetnutek.com
Fri Jul 4 15:50:33 UTC 2008

Thanks. I'll check these out.


On 04/07/2008, at 4:05 PM, Michael van der Gulik wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:04:52 +0800
> Stephen Ng <stephen.ng at planetnutek.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> First off, I am really new to smalltalk. I have tons of experience
>> with languages like C but have never made the move to OO type  
>> languages.
>> Secondly, I've been reading up as much as I can on OO concepts and
>> perhaps I can say that I feel comfortable with smalltalk syntax. My
>> question is how does one start learning about the MVC or Morphic
>> interfaces in order to use smalltalk in writing programs that make  
>> use
>> of lots of windows with text fields etc like in traditional business
>> systems? I cannot seem to find complete info on these topics. Many
>> tutorials just spend lots of time painting pretty lines and patterns
>> and fall short of showing someone like me how best to use the MVC,
>> Graphics-* or Morphic-* class categories and their classes. I
>> understand Morphic is the new wave as far as Squeak is concerned  
>> and I
>> would be just as happy to use it. However, all the literature on the
>> web is really disparate and does not approach the subject in a
>> holistic way. I've even tried looking at the classes themselves in  
>> the
>> Browser but the whole thing just gets very confusing.
>> I'd appreciate it if anyone can provide some pointers, direction,
>> literature (up to date with Squeak) etc.
> Hi Stephen.
> Welcome to the community!
> For traditional business programs in Squeak, I think that Morphic is  
> the hard way to do it. I tried, made a bit of progress but then gave  
> up in disgust.
> What I recommend is that you start from our documentation page - http://www.squeak.org/Documentation/ 
> . The book to read is "Squeak By Example".
> For business information system development, I'd recommend getting  
> in to web development using Seaside: http://www.seaside.st/. Your  
> applications in this environment will look a lot more professional  
> than they would in Morphic.
> And do ask questions here, or join us on the IRC channel on  
> freenode.net, #squeak. Often there are people there :-).
> Gulik.
> -- 
> Michael van der Gulik <mikevdg at gmail.com>

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