[Newbies] I don't get it

Erlis Vidal erlis at erlisvidal.com
Sat Jun 25 11:52:55 UTC 2011


Hi Blochl,

Thanks for the references, I'll take a look immediately.

After my last email I found the DCI mailing list and Jim and Trygve are
active member, I haven't asked yet the question about what was wrong with
smalltalk implementation but I'll do that and share the answer with you
guys.

Thanks for all once again
Erlis

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:24 AM, bb <bblochl at arcor.de> wrote:

> **
> Am 21.06.2011 15:46, schrieb Erlis Vidal:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I was reading recently Jim Coplien ideas about DCI and I was surprised with
> the following statement:
>
> *"The Smalltalk people, when they put together Smalltalk originally the
> computational model was exactly right, in terms of thinking in terms of
> objects. And then they screwed it up with the language. The language is so
> class focused! Most languages that we’re saddled with today had made this
> error."
> *
> you can find it here:
> http://blog.redtexture.net/2010/06/01/coplien-on-dci-mvc/
>
> Does someone knows what Jim is criticizing? In which sense the
> computational model was screwed by the language? I see smalltalk as a
> language that express very well the intended computational model behind.
>
> But that's just me, maybe some of you could help me to understand Jim's
> point.
>
> Thanks
> Erlis
>
>
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>  As I actually found, there already is an implementation of a DCI-System in
> Squeak/Smalltalk. You can find an article, a documenation and a download on
> http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver/themes/babyide/babyide-index.html
>
> Also given is a DCI-Maillist:
> object-composition (at) googlegroups.com.
>
> One might be interested in "The Common Sense of Object Oriented
> Programming" by Trygve Reenskaug
> http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver/2009/commonsense.pdf
>
> Regards
>
> B. Blochl
>
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