[Newbies] How do I start Squeak on Raspberry Pi ?

Thu Feb 19 03:04:54 UTC 2015

The RISC OS is available for Pi machines
<http://www.raspberrypi.org/risc-os-for-raspberry-pi/>. And there is a Squeak
for that OS. <http://www.squeakvm.org/riscos/>

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:10 PM, Casey Ransberger <casey.obrien.r at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Kirk,
>
> By "default OS" I'm guessing you mean Raspbian.
>
> On Linux, to be frank (not to be confused with Frank) I really think
> you're better off building your own VM from sources. We don't have a JIT
> that I know of for ARM based machines, so I'm guessing you want a "stack
> VM" or stack-oriented VM.
>
> It might be worth asking what the best VM is for the Pi right now. Mine
> has an old build of tim's patches to the stack VM, IIRC.
>
> I'm guessing the reason ./squeak worked when just plain squeak didn't, is
> because the directory the executable is in is not included in your PATH
> variable. Google will tell you how to fix that part. It's basically giving
> the system a list of directories to look through when you type the name of
> something you want to run.
>
> Generally, getting a VM to work on Linux based systems is about satisfying
> dependencies precisely. Keep at it, and I'm sure you'll get it figured out.
>
> For instant, one click easy installation, may I recommend a Mac or Windows
> machine?
>
> The main problem with supporting "Linux" is just this: there are a million
> and one variations on that design, and we'd need a million and one
> maintainers to be able to make sure that it "just works." Obviously there
> aren't resources to do that, at least not right now.
>
> So all that said, if you soldier through it and really push hard to learn
> everything you can about making stuff go on Linux systems, I can
> practically guarantee that people in the community will help you.
>
> Maybe, later on, you can maintain the VM for your favorite GNU/Linux
> distro, so the next brave soul doesn't have to repeat your footwork.
>
> HTH, and sorry about having been short with you a bit ago.
>
> --C
>
> On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Kirk Fraser <overcomer.man at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How do I tell what OS it is running?  I just downloaded the default
> recommended when loading my Pi SD card.
>
> I noticed an additional message in the terminal after the error popup
> appeared which may be helpful. It says:
>
> ./Squeak-4.5-All-in-One.app/Contents/LinuxAndWindows/squeak.sh: line 38:
> /home/pi/Desktop/Squeak-4.5-All-in-One/Squeak-4.5-All-in-One.app/Contents/LinuxAndWindows/Linux-armv6l/bin/squeak:
> No such file or directory
>
>
> Kirk W. Fraser
> w <http://freetom.info/TrueChurch>ww.JesusGospelChurch.com
> <http://www.JesusGospelChurch.com> - Replace the fraud churches with the
> true church.
> http://freetom.info - Example of False Justice common in America
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Michael Rice <limitcase at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What OS?
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Kirk Fraser <overcomer.man at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.squeak.org/Downloads first link.  I downloaded it directly
>>> into my Raspberry Pi from WiFi using Midori browser.
>>>
>>> Kirk W. Fraser
>>> w <http://freetom.info/TrueChurch>ww.JesusGospelChurch.com
>>> <http://www.JesusGospelChurch.com> - Replace the fraud churches with
>>> the true church.
>>> http://freetom.info - Example of False Justice common in America
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Michael Rice <limitcase at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where did you get the Squeak you were attempting run?
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Kirk Fraser <overcomer.man at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I tried first squeak.sh and got
>>>>> bash: squeak.sh command not found
>>>>> I tried the command you supplied ./squeak.sh and got a popup Error
>>>>> This Squeak version does not support Linux-armv6|
>>>>> [ok]
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing that means I need a new version and I should subscribe to
>>>>> the developers list to ask for it.  Thanks for your assistance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kirk W. Fraser
>>>>> w <http://freetom.info/TrueChurch>ww.JesusGospelChurch.com
>>>>> <http://www.JesusGospelChurch.com> - Replace the fraud churches with
>>>>> the true church.
>>>>> http://freetom.info - Example of False Justice common in America
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Michael Rice <limitcase at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you tried executing squeak.sh from the command line?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ./squeak.sh<enter>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Kirk Fraser <
>>>>>> overcomer.man at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes the "ls" command you gave produces
>>>>>>> -rwxrwxr-x 1 pi pi 63 Oct 12 00:49 squeak.sh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I double click on squeak.sh I get a pop-up menu which says:
>>>>>>>  Execute File
>>>>>>> This file 'squeak.sh' is executable. Do you wan to execute it?
>>>>>>> [Execute]  [Execute in Terminal]  [Cancel]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any of those choices does nothing visible but seems to block
>>>>>>> processing other commands for a moment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I made a copy of squeak.sh onto the desktop and it does the same
>>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kirk W. Fraser
>>>>>>> w <http://freetom.info/TrueChurch>ww.JesusGospelChurch.com
>>>>>>> <http://www.JesusGospelChurch.com> - Replace the fraud churches
>>>>>>> with the true church.
>>>>>>> http://freetom.info - Example of False Justice common in America
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Michael Rice <limitcase at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First things first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Every file has three permissions, read, write, and execute, for
>>>>>>>> three groups: user, group, and all. Do you have execute permission for
>>>>>>>> squeak.sh?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ls -l squeak.sh
>>>>>>>> -rw*x*rwxr-x. 1 mrice mrice 63 Oct 11 18:49 squeak.sh
>>>>>>>>    ^
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you show an "x" in column 4 (as above) then you have execute
>>>>>>>> permission.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have you tried double clicking the file?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Kirk Fraser <
>>>>>>>> overcomer.man at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have Squeak 4.5 All-In-One working in Kbuntu Linux after
>>>>>>>>> downloading, unzipping, and executing Squeak.sh   Attempting the same on a
>>>>>>>>> Raspberry Pi with the default OS, it downloads, unzips, and says squeak.sh
>>>>>>>>> is an executable file, do I want to execute?  I click execute then it does
>>>>>>>>> nothing.  What is needed to make it work?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am working to hopefully get eToys video to work on Squeak 4.5 on
>>>>>>>>> a Pi 1 or 2, the cheapest computer I know about.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kirk W. Fraser
>>>>>>>>>
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