From euanmee at gmail.com Thu Nov 5 09:13:26 2015 From: euanmee at gmail.com (EuanM) Date: Thu Nov 5 09:26:43 2015 Subject: [Newbies] Squeak 5 on Raspberry Pi Message-ID: <1446714806346-4859314.post@n4.nabble.com> I've just put the latest stable Squeak 5 folder on my Raspberry Pi. (on Raspbian) Executing the squeak.sh file does nothing. What other steps should I be taking? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-5-on-Raspberry-Pi-tp4859314.html Sent from the Squeak - Beginners mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From herbertkoenig at gmx.net Thu Nov 5 13:44:09 2015 From: herbertkoenig at gmx.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herbert_K=c3=b6nig?=) Date: Thu Nov 5 13:44:14 2015 Subject: [Newbies] Squeak 5 on Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: <1446714806346-4859314.post@n4.nabble.com> References: <1446714806346-4859314.post@n4.nabble.com> Message-ID: <563B5D29.80005@gmx.net> Hi, it worked out of the box for me. Only thing I can think of is that you unzipped the file on a different computer and didn't preserve the execution rights. Did you put the zip on your Pi and unzipped it there? Cheers, Herbert Am 05.11.2015 um 10:13 schrieb EuanM: > I've just put the latest stable Squeak 5 folder on my Raspberry Pi. (on > Raspbian) > > Executing the squeak.sh file does nothing. > > What other steps should I be taking? > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-5-on-Raspberry-Pi-tp4859314.html > Sent from the Squeak - Beginners mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners From euanmee at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 18:10:15 2015 From: euanmee at gmail.com (Euan Mee) Date: Fri Nov 6 18:10:18 2015 Subject: [Newbies] Squeak 5 on Raspberry Pi In-Reply-To: <563B5D29.80005@gmx.net> References: <1446714806346-4859314.post@n4.nabble.com> <563B5D29.80005@gmx.net> Message-ID: I'll try that this time (I had saved the zip to a mounted network drive the first time). Yep - all working now. And so *fast* (I have it running next to Pharo, which is unusable slow as a GUI. Whereas Squeak 5 is zipping along at Windows desktop speeds on the Pi (Model B). sudo chown -R pi mySqueakDirectory recursively changed the ownership of the folder (called 'mySqueakDirectory' and all its sub-folders and files sudo (to do work as the superuser) chown (to change ownership of the folder and its contents) -R to (to recursively change the ownership of the folder and all its files, and the sub-folders and all their files) pi to change the ownership to be belonging to Raspbian user account 'pi' mySqueakDirectory ( Alternatively ./mySqueakDirectory the name of the directory that Squeak is installed in On 5 November 2015 at 13:44, Herbert K?nig wrote: > Hi, > > it worked out of the box for me. Only thing I can think of is that you > unzipped the file on a different computer and didn't preserve the execution > rights. > > Did you put the zip on your Pi and unzipped it there? > > Cheers, > > Herbert > > > Am 05.11.2015 um 10:13 schrieb EuanM: >> >> I've just put the latest stable Squeak 5 folder on my Raspberry Pi. (on >> Raspbian) >> >> Executing the squeak.sh file does nothing. >> >> What other steps should I be taking? >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Squeak-5-on-Raspberry-Pi-tp4859314.html >> Sent from the Squeak - Beginners mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> _______________________________________________ >> Beginners mailing list >> Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners From euanmee at gmail.com Sat Nov 14 05:02:53 2015 From: euanmee at gmail.com (EuanM) Date: Sat Nov 14 05:02:56 2015 Subject: [Newbies] New Introductory Tutorial Message-ID: I've created Yet Another Smalltalk First Steps tutorial. This is intended as one of a series. It is designed to be cross-platform across Squeak 5 Pharo 4 Seaside 3.1 Cuis Dolphin 6 If you have experience running any of these systems on Windows, Linux or MacOS, please check to see if I have the instructions correct for your chosen pairing of Smalltalk and OS platform. (As you'll see when you look, I do not have detailed instructions for aspects of MacOS). The document is at: http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/get-smalltalk-up-and-running.html (It's intended to move to a different blog after this review process). I feel the need to do this as cross-Smalltalks tutorial because of findings and 4 charts I've placed at: http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/mindshare-of-smalltalk-in-development.html Essentially, Smalltalk mindshare and use is incredibly tiny, compared to other languages in the same space. (We all know this, but seeing it represented graphically has a more visceral effect, IMO) Aggregating interest in all the Smalltalks still does not bring more than a tiny proportion of the interest in, and use of, Ruby. In turn, Ruby is (quite understandably) small in comparison to JavaScript. Comparing interest in any specific Smalltalk is, predictably, smaller than the aggregate interest in Smalltalk. Our community seems determined to split itself into smaller and smaller sub-communities. I think we do ourselves a disservice this way. My initial contribution will be to try to provide some explicitly pan-Smalltalk beginners' tutorials, like this one. Cheers, and happy Smalltalking, EuanM From hannes.hirzel at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 13:00:23 2015 From: hannes.hirzel at gmail.com (H. Hirzel) Date: Wed Nov 18 13:00:27 2015 Subject: [Newbies] Re: [Cuis] New Introductory Tutorial In-Reply-To: <564A77EE.6060802@jvuletich.org> References: <564A77EE.6060802@jvuletich.org> Message-ID: Hi Euan Worthwhile to refer to in your tutorial is as well the web version of the ProfStef Smalltalk tutorial implemented in Amber Smalltalk http://amber-smalltalk.github.io/trysmalltalk/ (https://github.com/amber-smalltalk/trysmalltalk) It explains the syntax, control constructs and some basic classes. It was first implemented in Pharo and then ported. --Hannes On 11/17/15, Juan Vuletich wrote: > Hi EuanM, > > This is a great initiative. Thanks for including Cuis in the bunch! > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich > > On 14/11/2015 02:02 a.m., EuanM wrote: >> I've created Yet Another Smalltalk First >> Steps tutorial. >> >> This is intended as one of a series. >> >> It is designed to be cross-platform across >> >> Squeak 5 >> Pharo 4 >> Seaside 3.1 >> Cuis >> Dolphin 6 >> >> If you have experience running any of these systems on Windows, Linux >> or MacOS, please check to see if I have the instructions correct for >> your chosen pairing of Smalltalk and OS platform. >> >> (As you'll see when you look, I do not have detailed instructions for >> aspects of MacOS). >> >> The document is at: >> http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/get-smalltalk-up-and-running.html >> >> (It's intended to move to a different blog after this review process). >> >> I feel the need to do this as cross-Smalltalks tutorial because of >> findings and 4 charts I've placed at: >> http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/mindshare-of-smalltalk-in-development.html >> >> Essentially, Smalltalk mindshare and use is incredibly tiny, compared >> to other languages in the same space. (We all know this, but seeing >> it represented graphically has a more visceral effect, IMO) >> >> Aggregating interest in all the Smalltalks still does not bring more >> than a tiny proportion of the interest in, and use of, Ruby. >> >> In turn, Ruby is (quite understandably) small in comparison to >> JavaScript. >> >> Comparing interest in any specific Smalltalk is, predictably, smaller >> than the aggregate interest in Smalltalk. >> >> Our community seems determined to split itself into smaller and >> smaller sub-communities. I think we do ourselves a disservice this >> way. >> >> My initial contribution will be to try to provide some explicitly >> pan-Smalltalk beginners' tutorials, like this one. >> >> Cheers, and happy Smalltalking, >> EuanM >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cuis mailing list >> Cuis@jvuletich.org >> http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Cuis mailing list > Cuis@jvuletich.org > http://jvuletich.org/mailman/listinfo/cuis_jvuletich.org >