[Newbies] steam controller and Etoys

Steve Thomas sthomas1 at gosargon.com
Mon Dec 12 03:42:20 UTC 2016

A new version of Etoys!!!

Best Christmas present I could wish for.  Please feel free to add me to the
testing/documenting list.


On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>

> Hi Vicki,
> nice to hear from you!
> We are indeed working on a new Etoys version.  It's a huge effort though,
> since we are basing it on the latest Squeak release, meaning that many
> years of independent development have to be reconciled. That's why we
> cannot promise any release date yet.
> - Bert -
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 1:45 AM, Vicki S <otadini at outlook.com> wrote:
>> Hi. I tried signing up for the Squeakland mailing list but I'm not sure
>> that worked. I was fiddling around with Etoys yesterday and remembered
>> getting an Xbox 360 controller working with the joystick morph in
>> Windows. So I tried out my Steam controller from Valve. I couldn't
>> connect it to the morph but Windows 10 views it as a usb keyboard/mouse
>> and it worked fine with the Etoys To Go app even without Steam running.
>> Both the toggle and the left touch pad send arrow key input that the key
>> press morph can capture. I am not sure if the controller functions in
>> Windows without Steam installed but I wasn't up for the kerfuffle
>> uninstalling Steam would cause just to find out. Unfortunately Steam
>> isn't the kind of application young children should have installed but I
>> thought it was cool that there's another input device out there that
>> works well with Etoys. I tried out Ubuntu too but I haven't used the
>> controller in Ubuntu for a while and I guess an update overwrote a
>> configuration file because the wireless dongle wouldn't work. Plugging
>> the controller in with a micro usb cord worked without Steam running but
>> strangely lsusb still didn't detect it and I couldn't connect it to the
>> joystick morph. Mouse and keyboard input was fine however. There may be
>> an open source standalone Linux driver available but again I don't know
>> if that is necessary. Of course to customize controller output
>> applications must be launched from Steam. That works for Etoys as well.
>> I am a hobbyist/enthusiast with an interest in educational software.
>> Squeak has become my favourite environment for prototyping and
>> experimenting and I much prefer Etoys to Scratch. Some of the issues I
>> have with Etoys have been already been expressed by others so I am
>> curious if any new versions are in the pipeline.
>> Thanks
>> Vicki
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