[Newbies] Time to Vote!

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray at riseup.net
Mon Feb 5 15:39:55 UTC 2018

Hi Ron,

I'm pretty sure that the people in the voting list are pretty good. I
can't vote because I don't know how to choose one over, without being
part of other mailing list, which brings me back to what is happening in
this list and how to improve it.

I think that we all have been responsible for the silent times on this
list. I remember it being pretty active when I subscribed, back in 2006
in the times of SqueakFest and OLPC. In fact 2006 was the first time I
left my country to attend to SqueakFest. After that I changed, but the
community was kind of the same. I found other Smalltalk variants more
suited with my needs, but I hold dearly Etoys and many of ideas that
crystallize in several variants of Smalltalk.

Maybe I could talk about the themes that I feel are connected with this
list despite of using Pharo to implement them: Critical code+data
literacy for young and adults, hackerspaces & hackathons as alternative
educational spaces and so on. If that is on-topic, I will be glad to
share them. I really liked the strong educational focus of this
community and I think that we can spread that focus to non-school
contexts, despite of our Smalltalk flavor.



On 02/02/18 19:34, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
> Hi Offray,
> I'd be happy to add you to the voting list.  Let me know and I'll add
> you for next year.
> I agree with you.  Many years ago I used to be much more active (if
> you can believe that).  My idea at the time was that we would actually
> have a period of time for campaigning.  For a while, I started doing
> community interviews for news.squeak.org <http://news.squeak.org>.  I
> had tried also presenting questions, but I got some feedback that my
> questions were too focused on what I wanted and didn't represent the
> community at large.  At that point, I tried to encourage the community
> to ask questions instead but that didn't work either because nobody
> asked questions.  I'm was actually happy that everyone that is running
> this year gave some indication of what they are interested in doing
> and why they were running.  See http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6590 -
> Posts related to the Election (chronological).  
> I can tell you that for the group of people we have running there are
> no bad votes!  Everyone is terrific!  I could highlight some
> differences but that won't really help because the community members
> were correct, I AM BIASED.  :) 
> What I would recommend is getting on the voters' list.  Talk to your
> friends and get to know the people that are active in the community. 
> You might have to subscribe to Squeak-Dev or VM-Dev to get to know
> people better.  Most of the candidates don't often post to
> the beginners' list.  The beginners' list has always had a soft spot
> in my heart. I was here from the very beginning.  That is why I
> include it in my election emails.  Wow, just looking the beginners'
> list started in May 2006[1], it's been 12 years!  Once you have a good
> idea of what the community needs, you could ask questions!  Talk to
> the candidates. Your questions will probably be helpful for others
> that didn't take the time to ask but might want to know the answer too.  
> Do let us know If you have other suggestions on ways we can improve or
> write me directly.  I will do whatever I can to help!  
> All the best,
> Ron Teitelbaum 
> [1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/2006-May/thread.html 
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
> <offray at riseup.net <mailto:offray at riseup.net>> wrote:
>     Hi,
>     I have seen the voting call, but I don't know who I could vote
>     for. I think that we have excellent candidates list, but having
>     low voting rates is, for me a symptom of low communication rates,
>     not about the voting candidates, but about what is happening in
>     general in the community.
>     So, how can approach the more structural program about improving
>     community participation and communication so, we can have a more
>     informed voting campaign and proactivity from voters and the
>     community in general.
>     Cheers,
>     Offray
>     On 02/02/18 08:06, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
>>     Hi All,
>>     Not sure if I've mentioned this but IT"S TIME TO VOTE!
>>     You may be asking why is Ron pushing so hard for people to vote?
>>     We are on track to have our lowest vote count ever.  The number
>>     of voters is going down year to year but the drop this year is
>>     significant.  I'm sure we can do better!
>>     Please let me know if you have trouble finding your ballot.  I
>>     can resend it to you. 
>>     Thanks!
>>     All the best,
>>     Ron Teitelbaum 
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