[Newbies] Smalltalk benchmarks for Composite systems?

[Nicola Mingotti]

About one month ago I tested a simple loop speed comparing:
C, Squeak, Python, Ruby.

C of course is the kind, but that is not really a fair comparison.

Of the others 3, which are comparable languages, Squeak was the fastest.

bye
Nicola




On 9/26/19 4:29 AM, Thiede, Christoph wrote:
>
>     Hi Hannes,
>
>
>     thanks for your tips! Rosetta Code is a good idea, I will have a
>     look at this.
>
>
>     How many tests would you say a benchmark should contain for being
>     meaningful? Could you also recommend any other task from this page
>     that suits for message-send-stressing?
>
>
>     I have no experience at all with VMs, yet. Can I already run
>     Squeak on SistaV1 anywhere? Does it affect the overall speed
>     greatly if I am in CommandLine mode only?
>
>
>     Best,
>
>     Christoph
>
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> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 26. September 2019 10:32:17
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> *Betreff:* Re: [Newbies] Smalltalk benchmarks for Composite systems?
> Hi Christoph
>
> As you did not find a good benchmark I suggest that you design a suite
> of benchmarks for your own purpose. Use as target the  field of
> application.
>
> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code
>
> Contains many algorithms for different languages.
>
> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Tree_traversal (unfortunaltely Smalltalk
> version not implemented yet)
>
> But there are over 200 tasks done in Smalltalk
>
> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Smalltalk
>
> Kind regards
> Hannes
>
>
> P.S. Also note that the SistaV1 VM will offer a substantial
> improvement in performance https://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/676
>
> On 9/25/19, Thiede, Christoph
> <Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > Two years ago, I started a project for a Parser library - 
> unfortunately, at
> > this time, I was not aware of the marvels of Squeak, so I wrote it 
> in C#.
> > Now I've resumed that project and feel the classical, un-live 
> development
> > process more cumbersome than ever. I would love to migrate my project to
> > Smalltalk, but I'm worrying how much slower it will be compared to 
> C#, as I
> > am doing some quite CPU-intensive computations (that take even C# 
> several
> > seconds for small instances).
> >
> >
> > So I'm searching for some meaningful benchmarks to get an idea of 
> the speed
> > losses to expect. The main computations affect composite traversal, deep
> > copying, etc., so I think the workload should mainly address
> > message-sending. I did not found really good benchmarks searching for
> > "(squeak | smalltalk) vs (c# | java) benchmark" (assuming that C# 
> and Java
> > play in about the same league). Can someone give me a few pointers? In
> > short, under what circumstances would you recommend me to port a
> > computation-intensive library to Smalltalk?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Christoph
> >
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