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replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Beginners digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: squeak map problems (Norbert Hartl)<br> 2. Manipulation of existing objects (Marcus Strehlow)<br> 3. Re: Manipulation of existing objects (Enno Schwass)<br> 4. Re: Manipulation of existing objects (Bert Freudenberg)<br> 5. Re: Manipulation of existing objects (David Zmick)<br> 6. Re: Manipulation of existing objects (David Mitchell)<br> 7. Omnibrowser - columns resize? (itsme213)<br> 8. Re: OBMultipleSelectionBrowser dragging methods<br> (David R?thlisberger)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:44:30 +0100<br>From: Norbert Hartl <<a ymailto="mailto:norbert@hartl.name"
href="mailto:norbert@hartl.name">norbert@hartl.name</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Newbies] squeak map problems<br>To: Miron Brezuleanu <<a ymailto="mailto:mbrezu@gmail.com" href="mailto:mbrezu@gmail.com">mbrezu@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Squeak Newbies List <<a ymailto="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org" href="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <1199641470.7038.15.camel@localhost><br>Content-Type: text/plain<br><br>Hi,<br><br>please don't forget to reply to the list as well. These<br>discussions are valuable for others if they have the<br>chance to be archived.<br><br>On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 13:44 +0200, Miron Brezuleanu wrote:<br>> Hello,<br>> <br>> thanks for your reply - I have managed to download GLORP from
Universes.<br>> <br>The universe entry loads the package from my server not from squeakmap.<br><br>> SqueakMap still doesn't work on the image where I tried it first and<br>> neither on a *fresh* 3.10 gamma 7159 image with the 3.10 VM. It works<br>> on a fresh copy of Ramon Leon's image, though (taken from<br>> <a href="http://onsmalltalk.com/my-squeak-image/" target="_blank">http://onsmalltalk.com/my-squeak-image/</a>).<br>> <br>> The difference I can see between Ramon's image and the others is that<br>> on his image I can't update the squeakmap map, which I can do on the<br>> other variants. So maybe that image has an old and good url?<br>> <br>This only would make sense if Ramon's image would have a cached squeak-<br>map with Glorp version 0.4.129. Every other combination IMHO can't<br> work. <br>> I'm a beginner, sorry I can't provide more detailed (or meaningful)
information.<br>> <br>Hmmm, I changed the url in the package to point to a proper
destination.<br>I did a fresh install of a 3.9 image. I opened squeakmap and reloaded<br>the map. The map reflects my change I've done two hours ago. But the <br>install action seems to try to load from the old URL which still leads<br>to the login form. The URL which is now in the map is correct but the<br>install fails. I'll monitor this. <br><br><br>Norbert<br>> Thanks again,<br>> <br>> On Jan 6, 2008 1:01 PM, Norbert Hartl <<a ymailto="mailto:norbert@hartl.name" href="mailto:norbert@hartl.name">norbert@hartl.name</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 09:16 +0200, Miron Brezuleanu wrote:<br>> > > Hello,<br>> > ><br>> > > I'm trying to download GLORP from SqueakMap and the contents of
the<br>> > > sar file are in fact a small html with a login form, not zipped<br>> > > content as Squeak seems to expect.<br>> > ><br>> > > I tried getting a new password from SqueakMap (why do I need an<br>> > > account to download something? - I thought accounts were used for<br>> > > publishing) and the "random one-time password" email I get has no<br>> > > actual password in it. :-)<br>> > ><br>> > > I am using the 3.10gamma.7159 image with the 3.10 VM, but I doubt
the<br>> > > issue is related to my local setup.<br>> > ><br>> > > What's going on?<br>> > ><br>> > Oh, that was my fault. Doing the last release I copied the URL for<br>> > download from an improper place. The URL you got is only valid if<br>> > you logged into my account :) I fixed it a few seconds ago.<br>> ><br>> > I hope it works now. Please drop me note if doesn't work. You can<br>> > get the package also from<br>> ><br>> > <a href="http://selfish.org/files/st/" target="_blank">http://selfish.org/files/st/</a><br>> ><br>> > Norbert<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Beginners mailing list<br>> > <a ymailto="mailto:Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org" href="mailto:Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>> > <a
href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners" target="_blank">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners</a><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 20:53:03 +0000<br>From: Marcus Strehlow <<a ymailto="mailto:marcus.strehlow@gmail.com" href="mailto:marcus.strehlow@gmail.com">marcus.strehlow@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Newbies] Manipulation of existing objects<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org" href="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:27CE1B8B-6499-4963-94CA-FAF455930348@gmail.com" href="mailto:27CE1B8B-6499-4963-94CA-FAF455930348@gmail.com">27CE1B8B-6499-4963-94CA-FAF455930348@gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes<br><br>Hi all,<br><br>I am fairly new to
Squeak, and so far I have figured out the syntax <br>and everything, I do understand the basics. However, I am stuck on one
<br>particular thing - manipulation of objects that have been created, and
<br>are now in a World. I think the easiest example of what I mean is by <br>the following. Assume for a moment I have created a simple <br>RectangleMorph in the World, in this case with a specific parameter, <br>the color. The code for this would work out as:<br><br>| rectangle |<br>rectangle := RectangleMorph new openInWorld.<br>rectangle color: Color white.<br><br>Now, that the object is created in the World, how do I change its <br>properties while it exists? How would one change the color of the <br>RectangleMorph in this example, while it is on screen? Since <br>everything is an object, and objects can receive messages, I do <br>believe this to be possible, correct?<br><br><br>Thanks for your help,<br><br>Marcus<br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 22:05:45 +0100<br>From: Enno Schwass <<a ymailto="mailto:onkelenno@mac.com"
href="mailto:onkelenno@mac.com">onkelenno@mac.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Newbies] Manipulation of existing objects<br>To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions<br> about Squeak." <<a ymailto="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org" href="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:3B735976-4349-417F-A249-29013121A27D@mac.com" href="mailto:3B735976-4349-417F-A249-29013121A27D@mac.com">3B735976-4349-417F-A249-29013121A27D@mac.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed<br><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA1<br><br>Hi<br><br>> | rectangle |<br>> rectangle := RectangleMorph new openInWorld.<br>> rectangle color: Color white.<br>><br>> Now, that the object is created in the World, how do I change its <br>> properties while
it exists? How would one change the color of the <br>> RectangleMorph in this example, while it is on screen? Since <br>> everything is an object, and objects can receive messages, I do <br>> believe this to be possible, correct?<br><br>Just send messages to your reference (rectangle).<br><br>You did this in line 2<br><br>rectangle color: Color white.<br><br>You can send other messages like<br><br>rectangle useRoundedCorners.<br><br>If you dont have a reference to your morph, open a workspace, select <br>in its menu<br><br>"create textual references to dropped morphs"<br><br>then drag and drop your morph into your workspace. Use the printed <br>reference to send messages to.<br><br>Hope this helps<br>Enno<br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin)<br><br>iD8DBQFHgUKpRar8+mLBvIcRAiEzAJ0SapyszXWsgQGKJB73igEQHHfrmQCfR2pG<br>4rb15n30jFTDOAj+BkMLQfM=<br>=UynF<br>-----END PGP
SIGNATURE-----<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 22:19:47 +0100<br>From: Bert Freudenberg <<a ymailto="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Newbies] Manipulation of existing objects<br>To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions<br> about Squeak." <<a ymailto="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org" href="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:BA17F533-EF35-4176-95B7-C55A60E59312@freudenbergs.de" href="mailto:BA17F533-EF35-4176-95B7-C55A60E59312@freudenbergs.de">BA17F533-EF35-4176-95B7-C55A60E59312@freudenbergs.de</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed<br><br>On Jan 6, 2008, at 22:05 , Enno Schwass wrote:<br><br>> -----BEGIN PGP
SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> Hash: SHA1<br>><br>> Hi<br>><br>>> | rectangle |<br>>> rectangle := RectangleMorph new openInWorld.<br>>> rectangle color: Color white.<br>>><br>>> Now, that the object is created in the World, how do I change its <br>>> properties while it exists? How would one change the color of the <br>>> RectangleMorph in this example, while it is on screen? Since <br>>> everything is an object, and objects can receive messages, I do <br>>> believe this to be possible, correct?<br>><br>> Just send messages to your reference (rectangle).<br>><br>> You did this in line 2<br>><br>> rectangle color: Color white.<br>><br>> You can send other messages like<br>><br>> rectangle useRoundedCorners.<br>><br>> If you dont have a reference to your morph, open a workspace, <br>> select in its menu<br>><br>> "create
textual references to dropped morphs"<br>><br>> then drag and drop your morph into your workspace. Use the printed <br>> reference to send messages to.<br><br>Actually, the usual way is to open an inspector on the object you <br>want to work with, and start sending messages to self.<br><br>- Bert -<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:16:18 -0600<br>From: "David Zmick" <<a ymailto="mailto:dz0004455@gmail.com" href="mailto:dz0004455@gmail.com">dz0004455@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Newbies] Manipulation of existing objects<br>To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions<br> about Squeak." <<a ymailto="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org" href="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a
ymailto="mailto:c06c4b6b0801061516o26e3e4aet1109379b1f1a7fe1@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:c06c4b6b0801061516o26e3e4aet1109379b1f1a7fe1@mail.gmail.com">c06c4b6b0801061516o26e3e4aet1109379b1f1a7fe1@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>ya, an inspector works, you can also use the halo to change some things
in<br>morphic<br><br>On Jan 6, 2008 3:19 PM, Bert Freudenberg <<a ymailto="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>> wrote:<br><br>> On Jan 6, 2008, at 22:05 , Enno Schwass wrote:<br>><br>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> > Hash: SHA1<br>> ><br>> > Hi<br>> ><br>> >> | rectangle |<br>> >> rectangle := RectangleMorph new openInWorld.<br>> >> rectangle color: Color white.<br>> >><br>> >> Now, that the object is created in the World, how do I change its<br>> >> properties while it exists? How would one change the color of the<br>> >> RectangleMorph in this example, while it is on screen? Since<br>> >> everything is an object, and objects can receive messages, I do<br>> >> believe this to be possible, correct?<br>> ><br>> > Just send messages to your reference
(rectangle).<br>> ><br>> > You did this in line 2<br>> ><br>> > rectangle color: Color white.<br>> ><br>> > You can send other messages like<br>> ><br>> > rectangle useRoundedCorners.<br>> ><br>> > If you dont have a reference to your morph, open a workspace,<br>> > select in its menu<br>> ><br>> > "create textual references to dropped morphs"<br>> ><br>> > then drag and drop your morph into your workspace. Use the printed<br>> > reference to send messages to.<br>><br>> Actually, the usual way is to open an inspector on the object you<br>> want to work with, and start sending messages to self.<br>><br>> - Bert -<br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Beginners mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org"
href="mailto:Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners" target="_blank">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners</a><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL:
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href="mailto:8bc830730801061632v452e938l6eecb45adc2075db@mail.gmail.com">8bc830730801061632v452e938l6eecb45adc2075db@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>And to get the inspector (if you didn't know), you can start with the<br>red menu halo, go to debug, and then choose inspect morph.<br><br>On Jan 6, 2008 5:16 PM, David Zmick <<a ymailto="mailto:dz0004455@gmail.com" href="mailto:dz0004455@gmail.com">dz0004455@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ya, an inspector works, you can also use the halo to change some
things in<br>> morphic<br><br>> On Jan 6, 2008 3:19 PM, Bert Freudenberg <<a ymailto="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de">bert@freudenbergs.de</a> >
wrote:<br><br>> > Actually, the usual way is to open an inspector on the object you<br>> > want to work with, and start sending messages to self.<br>> ><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:57:24 -0600<br>From: "itsme213" <<a ymailto="mailto:itsme213@hotmail.com" href="mailto:itsme213@hotmail.com">itsme213@hotmail.com</a>><br>Subject: [Newbies] Omnibrowser - columns resize?<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org" href="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br>Message-ID: <flsm29$sm1$<a ymailto="mailto:1@ger.gmane.org" href="mailto:1@ger.gmane.org">1@ger.gmane.org</a>><br><br>I can't seem to resize Omnibrowser columns, is it something subtle?<br><br>- Sophie <br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:58:48 +0100<br>From: David R?thlisberger
<<a ymailto="mailto:squeak@c3com.ch" href="mailto:squeak@c3com.ch">squeak@c3com.ch</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Newbies] OBMultipleSelectionBrowser dragging methods<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:ch.l.ngre@online.de" href="mailto:ch.l.ngre@online.de">ch.l.ngre@online.de</a>, "A friendly place to get answers to even
the<br> most basic questions about Squeak."<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org" href="mailto:beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a>><br>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:4781E9C8.6040400@c3com.ch" href="mailto:4781E9C8.6040400@c3com.ch">4781E9C8.6040400@c3com.ch</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed<br><br><br>>> playing with 3.10 beta #7159 I found that OBMultipleSelectionBrowser
<br>>> does not allow methods to be dragged.<br>> <br>> I found Mantis, and saw that this is a known bug.<br><br>yes, exactly. It's also a fixed bug, you can get the fix by downloading
the newest <br>version of the OB-Enhancement package from Colin's Monticello
repository at <br><a href="http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/" target="_blank">http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/</a>.<br><br><br>David<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Beginners mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org" href="mailto:Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org">Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners" target="_blank">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners</a><br><br><br>End of Beginners Digest, Vol 21, Issue 8<br>****************************************<br></div><br></div></div><br>
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