That's good to hear - so I am wondering would people here place Squeak in a category of Visual Programming Languages (visual like Visual Basic)?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM, David Zmick <<a href="mailto:dz0004455@gmail.com">dz0004455@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Welcome, I am 14, and I just started with Smalltalk and Squeak, and I personally feel that it is easier to use and understand, once you get a basic understanding of how everything works. I have only really written software in Java, and I have played around with C++ a bit, but Smalltalk is my favorite language at the moment, and probably will be for quite some time!<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Nathan Lane <<a href="mailto:nathamberlane@gmail.com" target="_blank">nathamberlane@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Cool, thanks for the correction. I realized right away it was different. Thanks for explaining.<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Bert Freudenberg <<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" target="_blank">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>On 28.03.2008, at 17:28, Nathan Lane wrote:<br>
> There was one I forgot to mention, which claims to use a similar<br>
> production paradigm to SmallTalk - that is Ruby. I've been<br>
> programming in Ruby for over a year now, which I know isn't the<br>
> same, already, but it too is completely Object Oriented and Object<br>
> Based.<br>
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</div>The object semantics are indeed similar. However, in Squeak you're<br>
interacting with live objects directly, rather than having them<br>
recreated from dead code all the time. That's a huge difference once<br>
you make the mind shift.<br>
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And, btw, it's "Smalltalk" with a lowercase t.<br>
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