first of all, u\you should read Squeak By Example. Most book don't teach how to make things like that because in smalltalk, since you can browse all of the source code from within the environment, you can figure out how to make things like windows, or, anything in m\smalltalk, without having to look it up! that is one of the reasons I like smalltalk, you dont need any large reference manuals to work :)<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Michael van der Gulik <<a href="mailto:mikevdg@gmail.com">mikevdg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="Ih2E3d">On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:04:52 +0800<br>Stephen Ng <<a href="mailto:stephen.ng@planetnutek.com">stephen.ng@planetnutek.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Hi everyone,<br>><br>> First off, I am really new to smalltalk. I have tons of experience<br>
> with languages like C but have never made the move to OO type languages.<br>><br>> Secondly, I've been reading up as much as I can on OO concepts and<br>> perhaps I can say that I feel comfortable with smalltalk syntax. My<br>
> question is how does one start learning about the MVC or Morphic<br>> interfaces in order to use smalltalk in writing programs that make use<br>> of lots of windows with text fields etc like in traditional business<br>
> systems? I cannot seem to find complete info on these topics. Many<br>> tutorials just spend lots of time painting pretty lines and patterns<br>> and fall short of showing someone like me how best to use the MVC,<br>
> Graphics-* or Morphic-* class categories and their classes. I<br>> understand Morphic is the new wave as far as Squeak is concerned and I<br>> would be just as happy to use it. However, all the literature on the<br>
> web is really disparate and does not approach the subject in a<br>> holistic way. I've even tried looking at the classes themselves in the<br>> Browser but the whole thing just gets very confusing.<br>><br>
> I'd appreciate it if anyone can provide some pointers, direction,<br>> literature (up to date with Squeak) etc.<br><br><br></div>Hi Stephen.<br><br>Welcome to the community!<br><br>For traditional business programs in Squeak, I think that Morphic is the hard way to do it. I tried, made a bit of progress but then gave up in disgust.<br>
<br>What I recommend is that you start from our documentation page - <a href="http://www.squeak.org/Documentation/" target="_blank">http://www.squeak.org/Documentation/</a>. The book to read is "Squeak By Example".<br>
<br>For business information system development, I'd recommend getting in to web development using Seaside: <a href="http://www.seaside.st/" target="_blank">http://www.seaside.st/</a>. Your applications in this environment will look a lot more professional than they would in Morphic.<br>
<br>And do ask questions here, or join us on the IRC channel on <a href="http://freenode.net/" target="_blank">freenode.net</a>, #squeak. Often there are people there :-).<br><br>Gulik.<br><font color="#888888"><br>--<br>
Michael van der Gulik <<a href="mailto:mikevdg@gmail.com">mikevdg@gmail.com</a>><br></font>
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