Hi Blochl, <br><br>Thanks for the references, I'll take a look immediately. <br><br>After my last email I found the DCI mailing list and Jim and Trygve are active member, I haven't asked yet the question about what was wrong with smalltalk implementation but I'll do that and share the answer with you guys. <br>
<br>Thanks for all once again<br>Erlis <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:24 AM, bb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bblochl@arcor.de">bblochl@arcor.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Am <a href="tel:21.06.2011%2015" value="+12106201115" target="_blank">21.06.2011 15</a>:46, schrieb Erlis Vidal:
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">Hi guys, <br>
<br>
I was reading recently Jim Coplien ideas about DCI and I was
surprised with the following statement: <br>
<br>
<i>"The Smalltalk people, when they put together Smalltalk
originally the computational model was exactly right, in terms
of thinking in terms of objects. And then they screwed it up
with the language. The language is so class focused! Most
languages that we’re saddled with today had made this error."<br>
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you can find it here: <a href="http://blog.redtexture.net/2010/06/01/coplien-on-dci-mvc/" target="_blank">http://blog.redtexture.net/2010/06/01/coplien-on-dci-mvc/</a><br>
<br>
Does someone knows what Jim is criticizing? In which sense the
computational model was screwed by the language? I see smalltalk
as a language that express very well the intended computational
model behind. <br>
<br>
But that's just me, maybe some of you could help me to understand
Jim's point. <br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Erlis <br>
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As I actually found, there already is an implementation of a
DCI-System in Squeak/Smalltalk. You can find an article, a
documenation and a download on<br>
<a href="http://heim.ifi.uio.no/%7Etrygver/themes/babyide/babyide-index.html" target="_blank">http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver/themes/babyide/babyide-index.html</a><br>
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Also given is a DCI-Maillist: <br>
object-composition (at) <a href="http://googlegroups.com" target="_blank">googlegroups.com</a>.<br>
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One might be interested in "The Common Sense of Object Oriented
Programming" by Trygve Reenskaug<br>
<a href="http://heim.ifi.uio.no/%7Etrygver/2009/commonsense.pdf" target="_blank">http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver/2009/commonsense.pdf</a><br>
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Regards <br>
<br>
B. Blochl<br>
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