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Am 30.06.2011 11:53, schrieb Randal L. Schwartz:
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<pre wrap="">"bb" == bb <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bblochl@arcor.de"><bblochl@arcor.de></a> writes:
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bb> onionmixer.net/extra_data/gst.pdf
You keep bring up GNU Smalltalk.
Not to be annoying, but you *do* realize this is a *Squeak* Smalltalk
newbie list. If you want to get started with Squeak, check out the
Squeak tutorials at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://squeak.org/Documentation/">http://squeak.org/Documentation/</a>
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I brought up GNU Smalltalk for a good reason:<br>
I miss that clearification concerning FloatD/FloatE/FloatQ <b>in
any documentation about squeak</b>. <br>
(And beside: I do not plane to make bowling or other games in
Squeak! And even in Ducasses Book "Squeak: Learn Programming with
Robots." numeric precision is not a topic. <br>
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Well, one might say squeak is squeak and Smalltalk is Smalltalk -
certainly I know, that there are dialects of Smalltalk. <br>
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But on the back cover of "Squeak - A quick trip to Objectland" I
found an intro:<br>
"The Squeak programming language, an open and portable Smalltalk-80
implementation, ...". <br>
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And the home page of squeak remarks:<br>
Noteworthy aspects of Squeak include:<br>
* A mostly Smalltalk-80 and ANSI Smalltalk X3J20 compatible
language and base libraries<br>
* ...<br>
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So it should be legal to compare to i.e. "Draft American National
Standard for Information<br>
Systems - Programming Languages - Smalltalk" and ask about such
Smalltalk-80 topics including compatibility. Ironically one can
download it from the squeak wiki
(wiki.squeak.org/squeak/uploads/172/standard_v1_9-indexed.pdf). So
if you do not like GNU Smalltalk, read page 28 of "Draft American
National Standard for Information Systems - Programming Languages -
Smalltalk" instead:<br>
"An implementation may support up to three different floating point
numeric representations with<br>
varying precision and ranges ..."<br>
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But that source does not explained why squeak does have asFlotD/E/Q
as well. But that is explained in the GNU Smalltalk documentation
and I am absolutely sure that that is true for Squeak as well. <br>
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I would be thankful if you give me an advice, where I should aks my
questions if not at the beginners mail list?
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If you want to learn GNU Smalltalk instead, I'm sure there's an
appropriate mailing list for you to join. Please don't ask about GNU
Smalltalk here.
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I did not ask a GNU Smalltalk question! I asked a "Draft American
National Standard for Information Systems - Programming Languages -
Smalltalk" question concerning Aqueak and GNU Smalltalk as well. But
I found an explanation in the GNU Smalltalk docu, that is missing in
<b>any</b> Squeak docu! (I browsed all of them for FloatD/EQ!)<br>
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I do not want to learn GNU Smalltalk and I do not want to learn
Squeak, but I want to learn Smalltalk- 80! (Squeak and Smalltalk-80?
See above!) <br>
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If you and the Squeak Organisation do not like such questions simply
remark on the home page:<br>
<b>"Squeak is not Smalltalk-80 and not ANSI Smalltalk X3J20
compatible</b><b>!</b><br>
And may be you might add: Just a Toy for Children. The Squeak
homepage claims just the oposit. <br>
And you might add: Do not bother us with Smalltalk queations, we are
just gaming.<br>
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Some CS people have warned me to caution against Squeak as I told to
give it a try. So you see that the Squeak reputation is not very
high. With your mail you force the common broad idea that Squeak is
just a gaming thingy for kiddies. <br>
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I would thank anyone very much who can point me to another free
Smalltalk-80 Version - than I promise not to bother you any longer.
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Regards<br>
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B. Blochl<br>
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