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Hi Eric,<br>
<br>
my two cents on this:<br>
<br>
Squeak has few resources nowadays and nobody (including me) has
continued to work on these things.<br>
<br>
For me the big breakdown was that project save broke in 4.5. <br>
<br>
The big plus of Squeak for me is it's backwards compatibility. So I
develop in 4.4 and if I need the speed of the new VM I just deploy
it on 5.0. This is for example all my Raspberry Pi work.<br>
<br>
I did a lot of work in 3.8 which afaik has all the toys you mention
and some development tools I like. Basically with todays computers
it runs fast as lightning compared to then. You'll need to find the
latest interpreter (non cog, non spur) VM, I'll happily mail you the
one I'm using. I assume I could just take the mcz's (Monticello) and
load them in a current Squeak to run them. Maybe I'll do that
shortly when I revisit my neural networks stuff.<br>
<br>
Bottom line:<br>
I'm happy Squeak makes the great progress (imho) it makes and I have
to compensate for the losses unless I'm willing to do the work. I
suggest you try a 3.8 image to find your toys and do new stuff in
5.0 unless you need to save projects across images. If so, 4.4 is
the latest one.<br>
<br>
Squeak incl. 5.0 is such a great environment to be working in!<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Herbert<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 14.10.2015 um 16:46 schrieb Eric
Scharff:<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class="">I was an
active Squeak user around 10 years ago, but (I admit
sheepishly) I disappeared.</div>
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id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_6161" class="">
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class="">I went to
rediscover Squeak and downloaded a 4.6 image, but found that
many of the toys I wanted to play with are no longer part of
the standard image such as:</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class=""> * Freecell</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class=""> * The Piano
Keyboard morph and the Piano Roll midi reader/editor</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class=""> * The chess
game</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class=""><br
id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_6168" class="">
</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class="">I guess I
could download an older image, but are any of these available
in a more recent version of Squeak? Would a Squeak 3.2 image
even work properly on a new VM? I'd bet there would be some
plugin version mismatches...</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class=""><br
id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_6172" class="">
</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class="">I opened up
SqueakMap, clicked "Update", and saw a whole lot of packages,
but I clearly don't understand the UI. If these packages were
available somewhere, I couldn't figure out how to use it.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" class=""><br
id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_6176" class="">
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1444833738327_5229" dir="ltr" class="">Any
help would be greatly appreciated!</div>
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