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<p>Welcome Owen!</p>
<p>These questions has been raised time and again, with long
discussions and pretty exaggerated statements, like Smalltalk is
dead[1][2] and interesting conversations about why it didn't
become mainstream, or how its ideas have mutated and live in
pretty successful products like containers (ie: docker). I
recommend you to check tose lins.<br>
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<address>[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.c2.com/?WhyIsSmalltalkDead">http://wiki.c2.com/?WhyIsSmalltalkDead</a><br>
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<address>[2]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/smalltalk-is-dead-long-live-smalltalk/">https://gemstonesoup.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/smalltalk-is-dead-long-live-smalltalk/</a><br>
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In my case, I found Squeak 10 years ago, I had some teaching
experience using Etoys, Scracth and Bots Inc for a couple of years
and to research on my master studies, now I came back since mid 2014
with Pharo[3] making the research for my PhD [4]. In the last ESUG
2016, the Squeak team celebrated the 20 years with the release of
the 5.0 version with a lot of improvement. I was really glad to be
there and see this vibrant community and be part of it.<br>
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[3] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pharo.org/">http://pharo.org/</a><br>
[4] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/index.en.html">http://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/index.en.html</a><br>
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On the hardware question, there was some SqueakNOS (if I remember
correctly) for Squeak No Operative System that runs directly on
hardware, but that seems like a long path for me. My idea would be
to put it as an additional app that runs with the rest of your
tablet/phone/laptop and progressively provides a coherent experience
for the fractured world of computing.<br>
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Pharo/Smalltalk is the environment I feel most empowered these days
and because of the "native live coding" experience, I can make agile
prototypes of ideas and evolve them. We have a recurrent Critical
Code+Data Literacy & Visualization workshop [5], so I can share
the joy of Smalltalk with other learners and bridge it with current
themes and issues where I think that Smalltalk ideas are
particularly well suited: data activism, data visualization,
reproducible research, data driven storytelling, modeling, open
government and others.<br>
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[5] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mutabit.com/dataweek/">http://mutabit.com/dataweek/</a><br>
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So, despite of not being mainstream, I think that Smalltalk
ecosystem is pretty vital and healthy, we can share the joy with
others and learn with them without too much concern about
popularity* <br>
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Welcome again,<br>
<br>
Offray<br>
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* Popularity seems a recurrent concern in United States culture, as
the popular TV shows and movies show all the time, and the cliche
story moment where everybody needs to acknowledge some personal,
romantic or other achievement and clap... but maybe mainstream TV
shows, Cinema and news are not the proper view point for culture :-)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/12/16 09:37, blubee blubeeme
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello
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<div>I recently came across Alan Kay's talks on youtube, then
that lead me to Dan Ingalls and looking at smalltalk, squeak
and object oriented programming as thought up by Alan Kay in
the 1960s.</div>
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<div>I wonder how come this type of computing isn't the
mainstream. We've seen other OS pop up since then that were a
lot less capable that got some mainstream success.</div>
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<div>It seems like this type of computing gets put in the kiddy
corner and most people don't know about it or those who do
kinda use it and sometimes people just don't seem to get it.</div>
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<div>Has anyone ever though about making a platform where squeak
is customized to the hardware, something like android, iphone,
bb10 and qnx, etc..</div>
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<div>Also if this is the wrong mailing list, can you point me at
the correct mailing list for this discussion.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Owen</div>
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