<div dir="ltr">Hi Offray,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your email. Certainly, I think what you have to say is on-topic. Please do share. </div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:offray@riseup.net" target="_blank">offray@riseup.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Ron,</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that the people in the voting list are pretty
good. I can't vote because I don't know how to choose one over,
without being part of other mailing list, which brings me back to
what is happening in this list and how to improve it. <br>
</p>
<p>I think that we all have been responsible for the silent times on
this list. I remember it being pretty active when I subscribed,
back in 2006 in the times of SqueakFest and OLPC. In fact 2006 was
the first time I left my country to attend to SqueakFest. After
that I changed, but the community was kind of the same. I found
other Smalltalk variants more suited with my needs, but I hold
dearly Etoys and many of ideas that crystallize in several
variants of Smalltalk.</p>
<p>Maybe I could talk about the themes that I feel are connected
with this list despite of using Pharo to implement them: Critical
code+data literacy for young and adults, hackerspaces &
hackathons as alternative educational spaces and so on. If that is
on-topic, I will be glad to share them. I really liked the strong
educational focus of this community and I think that we can spread
that focus to non-school contexts, despite of our Smalltalk
flavor.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Offray<br>
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<div class="m_-389700061861849039moz-cite-prefix">On 02/02/18 19:34, Ron Teitelbaum
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<div>I'd be happy to add you to the voting list. Let me know
and I'll add you for next year.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>I agree with you. Many years ago I used to be much more
active (if you can believe that). My idea at the time was
that we would actually have a period of time for campaigning.
For a while, I started doing community interviews for <a href="http://news.squeak.org" target="_blank">news.squeak.org</a>.
I had tried also presenting questions, but I got some feedback
that my questions were too focused on what I wanted and didn't
represent the community at large. At that point, I tried to
encourage the community to ask questions instead but that
didn't work either because nobody asked questions. I'm was
actually happy that everyone that is running this year gave
some indication of what they are interested in doing and why
they were running. See <a href="http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6590" target="_blank">http://wiki.squeak.org/<wbr>squeak/6590</a>
- Posts related to the Election (chronological). </div>
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<div>I can tell you that for the group of people we have running
there are no bad votes! Everyone is terrific! I could
highlight some differences but that won't really help because
the community members were correct, I AM BIASED. :) </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What I would recommend is getting on the voters' list.
Talk to your friends and get to know the people that are
active in the community. You might have to subscribe to
Squeak-Dev or VM-Dev to get to know people better. Most of
the candidates don't often post to the beginners' list. The
beginners' list has always had a soft spot in my heart. I was
here from the very beginning. That is why I include it in my
election emails. Wow, just looking the beginners' list
started in May 2006[1], it's been 12 years! Once you have a
good idea of what the community needs, you could ask
questions! Talk to the candidates. Your questions will
probably be helpful for others that didn't take the time to
ask but might want to know the answer too. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>Do let us know If you have other suggestions on ways we can
improve or write me directly. I will do whatever I can to
help! </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>All the best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ron Teitelbaum </div>
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<div>[1] <a href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/2006-May/thread.html" target="_blank">http://lists.<wbr>squeakfoundation.org/<wbr>pipermail/beginners/2006-May/<wbr>thread.html</a> </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:32 PM, Offray
Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:offray@riseup.net" target="_blank">offray@riseup.net</a>></span>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have seen the voting call, but I don't know who I
could vote for. I think that we have excellent
candidates list, but having low voting rates is, for me
a symptom of low communication rates, not about the
voting candidates, but about what is happening in
general in the community.<br>
</p>
<p>So, how can approach the more structural program about
improving community participation and communication so,
we can have a more informed voting campaign and
proactivity from voters and the community in general.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Offray<br>
</p>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi All,
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<div>Not sure if I've mentioned this but IT"S TIME
TO VOTE!</div>
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<div>You may be asking why is Ron pushing so hard
for people to vote?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We are on track to have our lowest vote count
ever. The number of voters is going down year
to year but the drop this year is significant.
I'm sure we can do better!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please let me know if you have trouble
finding your ballot. I can resend it to you. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks!</div>
<div><br>
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<div>All the best,</div>
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<div>Ron Teitelbaum </div>
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