mail loop

[Steven Elkins]

Hi Ken,

Thanks for investigating this.  My answers to your questions are near  
the end.

On Feb 1, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Ken Causey wrote:

> Steve,
>
> I've been looking into this and I can find at least some evidence  
> of you
> having been sent a few duplicates of this message because the  
> Bellsouth
> mail server was receiving the message and then for some reason
> prematurely disconnecting and our mail server couldn't be sure  
> delivery
> had occurred and so kept trying.  For example:
>
> Jan 31 07:53:30 localhost qmail: 1138690410.295490 starting delivery
> 2514987: msg 15581839 to remote sgelkins at bellsouth.net
> Jan 31 07:55:01 localhost qmail: 1138690501.253673 delivery 2514987:
> deferral:
> Connected_to_205.152.58.33_but_connection_died._Possible_duplicate!
> _(#4.4.2)/
>
> However I'm only finding on the order of 20-30 of these with the
> specific Message-ID that you provided before.  Also it seems like it
> should now have stopped about 9 hours ago (the times here are in UTC):
>
> Feb  1 12:46:50 localhost qmail: 1138794410.078865 starting delivery
> 2575017: msg 15581839 to remote sgelkins at bellsouth.net
> Feb  1 12:46:51 localhost qmail: 1138794411.741594 delivery 2575017:
> success:
> 205.152.58.33_accepted_message./ 
> Remote_host_said:_250_Message_received:_20060201114651.GBIS25935.ibm04 
> aec.bellsouth.net at box2.squeakfoundation.org/
>
> This success should mean that repeated delivery should have stopped.

Yes, the last (I hope!) copy of Craig's Spoon update arrived about 9  
hours before you sent your message.

> Is this the only repeated message you have gotten?  If you are still
> getting messages could you check for any different message-ids?   
> I'll be
> around on #squeak on irc.freenode.net for a while this afternoon
> (although I will be somewhat erratic after about 4PM US central  
> time and
> completely gone by 5:45 or so).

I got 20 copies of an approval request for a message from  
e_andrewsvi at midcoast.com, all with the same message-id; 18 copies for  
a message from binabdulrahman at netscape.net; similar numbers for  
several other messages, same message-ids.  Had it only been Craig's  
message repeating, I wouldn't have yelled for help.  I was starting  
to worry about doing a good job of (dis)approving messages from non- 
subscribers to squeak-dev.

I'm cautiously optimistic that the problem's over, at least for now.   
Just a few duplicates this evening, all sent early this morning, no  
duplicates for over 13 hours.  A good sign.

If it happens again, I guess I'll ask Cees to switch my admin  
forwarding address to my Gmail account.

Thanks again for your help,
Steve