[Box-Admins] Permissions

Chris Muller ma.chris.m at gmail.com
Sat Feb 5 20:55:53 UTC 2011

Ok, so you're saying, we don't have a place to back-up to right now.
How much space are we using?  I'm wondering if whether each box-admin
team member could simply rsync to a dedicated directory on home
machines, perhaps on daily cron schedule?

OR, we could use a pay service, but it might not be a bad idea to just
try to get ONE copy somewhere.  We can't afford to lose

We won't procrastinate this anymore.  I remember now that Ken and
Goran researched the backup a few years ago.  Did you guys end up
using rsync?

I'll try to poke around on the box this weekend.

BTW, who (company or individual?) and where, physically, are the
boxe(s) located now?  Do we only have one box?

  - Chris

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Ken Causey <ken at kencausey.com> wrote:
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Box-Admins] Permissions
>> From: Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, February 05, 2011 11:25 am
>> To: Squeak Hosting Support <box-admins at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> Göran, can you elaborate on the backup?  What are we using now and
>> what's broken about it.
>> HD's fail, backups are very important.  Are you saying we're not
>> backed up right now?
>> thanks..
> Yes, right now there is no offsite backup.  We have a local backup
> system for much content in case we just screw up but that doesn't help
> in the case of hard drive failure.
> Goran provided an offsite backup for a long time but lost the facility
> when he changed jobs.  I've asked for help with this in the past with
> little response.  It has been a while and perhaps it is time to ask
> again.
> Ken
>> 2011/2/5 Göran Krampe <goran at krampe.se>:
>> > On 02/04/2011 10:19 PM, Ken Causey wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We already have this in some sense.  Most individual projects are setup
>> >> under their own home directories and to administer them it is generally
>> >> sufficient to have access to the individual account, not superuser
>> >> access.  For example the webteam manages the website without superuser
>> >> access and release teams can update the ftp site generally without
>> >> superuser access.  So for example if someone wanted to volunteer to work
>> >> on bugs.squeak.org it would probably suffice to give them access to the
>> >> mantis user account.
>> >>
>> >> That said the use of sudo has been brought up before and it is worth
>> >> looking into.  My grand plans to setup new servers included every
>> >> intention of making liberal use of sudo.  But I simply haven't gotten
>> >> around to it.  I would welcome any insights anyone has on configuring
>> >> sudo for our purposes.
>> >>
>> >> Ken
>> >
>> > IMHO the levels Ken describe are enough. If you are trusted with Linux admin
>> > stuff then root it is IMHO. Let's not complicate things :)
>> >
>> > ...and we really need to fix a running offsite scheduled backup. ASAP.
>> >
>> > Sidenote: Btw, I now use Duplicity with Deja Dup on my laptop - works good
>> > even for large files onto a vfat external USB drive.
>> >
>> > regards, Göran
>> >

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