[Box-Admins] Re: [squeak-dev] SqueakSource.com home page (was: Fix for OSProcess - Where to commit?)

Ken Causey ken at kencausey.com
Fri Nov 15 01:54:02 UTC 2013


Oh, and Chris (Muller), your participation would also be appreciated as
you were involved in the start of this when source.squeak.org was being
very slow and I found the image file had increased in size many times.

Ken

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [Box-Admins] Re: [squeak-dev] SqueakSource.com home page
> (was: Fix for OSProcess - Where to commit?)
> From: "Ken Causey" <ken at kencausey.com>
> Date: Thu, November 14, 2013 7:52 pm
> To: "Squeak Hosting Support" <box-admins at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> 
> 
> David,
> 
> Probably this is entirely unrelated, but...
> 
> For the last several days, a week or more I guess, we've had a problem
> with source.squeak.org and I begin to wonder if there is not some common
> denominator here.  In brief the source.squeak.org process will not run
> under supervise, the exact behavior has varied as I've tried different
> things, but most commonly the squeak process ends up as a defunct
> process (it 'dies' but supervise doesn't realize it has).  I frankly
> haven't spent a lot of time trying to work out what is going wrong, for
> now I'm just starting it manually.  I feel like I must be missing
> something obvious...
> 
> I wonder if sometime over the weekend or perhaps next week you might
> have some time to chat with me, perhaps over Google Chat?  Perhaps
> between the two of us we can improve both source.squeak.org and
> squeaksource.com.
> 
> Ken
> 
> P.S. For those wondering, I can't email David directly, probably because
> my SPF is fouled up or his provider doesn't like GoDaddy (who does? and
> don't ask).  The last I heard though he does get my email through the
> list.
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [Box-Admins] Re: [squeak-dev] SqueakSource.com home page (was:
> > Fix for OSProcess - Where to commit?)
> > From: "David T. Lewis" <lewis at mail.msen.com>
> > Date: Thu, November 14, 2013 7:26 pm
> > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> > <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> > Cc: box-admins at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > 
> > 
> > The image is now showing 10 session handler processes in the process
> > browser. Presumably these are related to the failed upload requests.
> > 
> > I do not understand the cause of this problem, and it may be that I
> > should revert the changes that I did earlier today (in which I put
> > squeaksource under the control of the supervise(8) for starting the
> > image).
> > 
> > But I suspect that the problem lies elsewhere, so for I will make
> > a copy of the broken image for debugging, then terminate the excess
> > processes. This should clear the problem temporarily. I will follow
> > up with another email within about 30 minutes.
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:28:18AM +0100, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> > > Thanks David, it went back to normal speed for a moment, but is now
> > > rejecting my upload requests again (most will timeout, some do work
> > > intermittently)...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 2013/11/14 David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:55:55PM +0100, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> > > > > Yes, let's remove the alarms.
> > > > > But it has to be functional.
> > > > > Currently, I can connect on the web interface and I can download, but all
> > > > > my upload are failing with timeout... Any idea?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I made some changes to the launch script for squeaksource.com earlier
> > > > today:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/box-admins/2013-November/001598.html
> > > >
> > > > It is possible that this may be related to the problem you are seeing (I am
> > > > not sure at this point).
> > > >
> > > > I tried loading some packages from squeaksource a few minutes ago, and it
> > > > was slow but functional. However, checking the image I see 15 active
> > > > SSession handlers in a ProcessBrowser. This is not right, and it appears
> > > > to be a recurrence of a problem that we have seen previously on an
> > > > intermittent
> > > > basis, both on squeaksource.com and (probably) on source.squeak.org.
> > > >
> > > > I will terminate the runaway session handler processes, which I hope will
> > > > clear up the immediate problem.
> > > >
> > > > More to follow I'm sure ...
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/11/14 Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 14.11.2013, at 13:04, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> The welcome (sic) message on the SqueakSource home page is overly
> > > > > > alarming,
> > > > > > >> and IMHO should be changed to something that encourages new
> > > > projects to
> > > > > > >> be created elsewhere, but that does not cause alarm for existing
> > > > usurs.
> > > > > > >> But that is a policy decision, and I will defer to the Squeak board
> > > > and
> > > > > > >> the Squeak community on this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think we should we should delete the "ATTENTION!" line but leave
> > > > the
> > > > > > > note about creation of projects being disabled.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Bert -
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