[Box-Admins] Re: [squeak-dev] SqueakSource.com home page (was: Fix for OSProcess - Where to commit?)

[Ken Causey]

I'm on Central Standard Time.  At the moment the only time I know of
that won't work for me is from about 11AM to 2 or 3PM CST on Saturday.

Ken

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Box-Admins] Re: [squeak-dev] SqueakSource.com home page
> (was: Fix for OSProcess - Where to commit?)
> From: "David T. Lewis" <lewis at mail.msen.com>
> Date: Thu, November 14, 2013 8:21 pm
> To: Squeak Hosting Support <box-admins at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> 
> 
> Thanks Ken,
> 
> Let's try for some time this weekend. I am in Eastern Standard Time
> (Michigan USA). Please give me a time that will work for you. I do not
> have a computer that works with Google Chat (*), but I can boot into
> Windows for a while to get access.
> 
> Dave
> 
> (*) Even my google phone does not work, because the battery runs dead
> if I install Google+. I had a perfectly good Chrome browser on my Linux
> machine which suddenly refused to do gmail or google anything else until
> I upgraded the browser. So I upgraded it and got a shiny new version of
> Chrome that does not run on my system because my system is "too old".
> This is just like Microsoft all over again, I have no patience for it.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 06:52:09PM -0700, Ken Causey wrote:
> > David,
> > 
> > Probably this is entirely unrelated, but...
> > 
> > For the last several days, a week or more I guess, we've had a problem
> > with source.squeak.org and I begin to wonder if there is not some common
> > denominator here.  In brief the source.squeak.org process will not run
> > under supervise, the exact behavior has varied as I've tried different
> > things, but most commonly the squeak process ends up as a defunct
> > process (it 'dies' but supervise doesn't realize it has).  I frankly
> > haven't spent a lot of time trying to work out what is going wrong, for
> > now I'm just starting it manually.  I feel like I must be missing
> > something obvious...
> > 
> > I wonder if sometime over the weekend or perhaps next week you might
> > have some time to chat with me, perhaps over Google Chat?  Perhaps
> > between the two of us we can improve both source.squeak.org and
> > squeaksource.com.
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> > P.S. For those wondering, I can't email David directly, probably because
> > my SPF is fouled up or his provider doesn't like GoDaddy (who does? and
> > don't ask).  The last I heard though he does get my email through the
> > list.
> > 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: [Box-Admins] Re: [squeak-dev] SqueakSource.com home page (was:
> > > Fix for OSProcess - Where to commit?)
> > > From: "David T. Lewis" <lewis at mail.msen.com>
> > > Date: Thu, November 14, 2013 7:26 pm
> > > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> > > <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> > > Cc: box-admins at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The image is now showing 10 session handler processes in the process
> > > browser. Presumably these are related to the failed upload requests.
> > > 
> > > I do not understand the cause of this problem, and it may be that I
> > > should revert the changes that I did earlier today (in which I put
> > > squeaksource under the control of the supervise(8) for starting the
> > > image).
> > > 
> > > But I suspect that the problem lies elsewhere, so for I will make
> > > a copy of the broken image for debugging, then terminate the excess
> > > processes. This should clear the problem temporarily. I will follow
> > > up with another email within about 30 minutes.
> > > 
> > > Dave
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:28:18AM +0100, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> > > > Thanks David, it went back to normal speed for a moment, but is now
> > > > rejecting my upload requests again (most will timeout, some do work
> > > > intermittently)...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 2013/11/14 David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:55:55PM +0100, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> > > > > > Yes, let's remove the alarms.
> > > > > > But it has to be functional.
> > > > > > Currently, I can connect on the web interface and I can download, but all
> > > > > > my upload are failing with timeout... Any idea?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I made some changes to the launch script for squeaksource.com earlier
> > > > > today:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/box-admins/2013-November/001598.html
> > > > >
> > > > > It is possible that this may be related to the problem you are seeing (I am
> > > > > not sure at this point).
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried loading some packages from squeaksource a few minutes ago, and it
> > > > > was slow but functional. However, checking the image I see 15 active
> > > > > SSession handlers in a ProcessBrowser. This is not right, and it appears
> > > > > to be a recurrence of a problem that we have seen previously on an
> > > > > intermittent
> > > > > basis, both on squeaksource.com and (probably) on source.squeak.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will terminate the runaway session handler processes, which I hope will
> > > > > clear up the immediate problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > More to follow I'm sure ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2013/11/14 Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 14.11.2013, at 13:04, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> The welcome (sic) message on the SqueakSource home page is overly
> > > > > > > alarming,
> > > > > > > >> and IMHO should be changed to something that encourages new
> > > > > projects to
> > > > > > > >> be created elsewhere, but that does not cause alarm for existing
> > > > > usurs.
> > > > > > > >> But that is a policy decision, and I will defer to the Squeak board
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> the Squeak community on this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think we should we should delete the "ATTENTION!" line but leave
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > note about creation of projects being disabled.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yep.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Bert -
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