[Box-Admins] box3.squeak.org off line - HELP neeeded

[David T. Lewis]

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 02:06:09PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:23:06AM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 07:54:05PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> >> >> I just deployed an updated image for "new trunk" at
> >> >> box4.squeak.org:8888/trunk.  This is the one that uses the Magma
> >> >> backend.  I haven't done any benchmarks but the response time seems
> >> >> pretty snappy, even compared to regular source.squeak.org.  Could be
> >> >> due to Cog, the Magma backend, or box4 being under less load than
> >> >> box3.
> >> >
> >> > It might be all of the above. I'm thinking that the priority for the
> >> > squeaksource.com image is to first get it up to date to the level of
> >> > source.squeak.org, then at our leisure we can bring both of them together
> >> > up to a the level that you are demonstarting with Cog and Magma. But
> >> > the main thing is to get squeaksource.com stable, which is not yet the case.
> >>
> >> source.squeak.org is getting slow too, and it runs on an old image.
> >> The work I've done to bring it to a trunk image under Cog is based on
> >> the source.squeak.org image, and really not that many changes.
> >>
> >> > It turns out that the following snippet from the workspace that SCG provided
> >> > took care of the problem for now:
> >> >
> >> >         " kill runaway processes "
> >> >         ProcessBrowser open.
> >> >         Process allInstances do: [ :each |
> >> >                 each priority = 30 ifTrue: [
> >> >                         each terminate ] ].
> >>
> >> OMG!  No wonder SS has so many problems if it is so unloved that
> >> someone would arbitrarily kill processes based on their priority!
> >>
> >
> > That's just something I found in the workspace that came with the image.
> > I figured it must be there for a reason, so I tried it and it "fixed"
> > the problem.
> >
> > You are right about one thing - SS was not getting much love. Even I, who
> > knew absolutely nothing about SqueakSource before I volunteered to move
> > it, was able to fix some of the worst problems. That's why I am confident
> > that we can get it running reliably once we have given it a little bit
> > of long-overdue attention.
> >
> >> > So I'm guessing that some Seaside handler got wedged, presumably concurrent
> >> > with an excessive memory usage condition, and it probably failed in some way
> >> > that did not let the garbage collector clean up the mess.
> >>
> >> SS forks the email out to Project subscribers at priority 30. See
> >> SSEMailSubscription>>#versionAdded:to:.  I wonder whether that's what
> >> those were?
> >
> > Outbound mail notification from squeaksource.com is disabled, so that
> > should not have been a concern.
> 
> Which switch are you referring to that is "disabled"?  Did you check
> SSProject>>#versionAdded:?  For the path of someone saving a version,
> it _unconditionally_ sends out mail to all subscribers, there is no
> single switch to disable that..
> 

I found was some attribute that I set false, which seems to control it globally.

> > Note, I still need help from someone with access to box2 to enable mail
> > delivery. I don't want to install an entire mail system on box3 just
> > to handle notifications from squeaksource on box3, so I expect that
> > configuring box2 to accept smtp from box3 would be the right thing
> > to do.
> 
> Is SMTP support not already part of box3?  Seems like a relatively
> basic service we're gonna want at some point because we want to be
> focusing on transitioning all responsibilities away from box2 toward
> box3 and box4 anyway.

No, mail is not installed on box3. I would be happy either way, all I
want is a place to route the mail and currently that seems to be box2.
I don't mind installing mail on box3 if that is the right thing to do,
but I would need some guidance as to what package to install (exim?).
I don't currently have access to box4 or box2, so I don't know our
current setup and I don't want to take a guess and install the wrong
package.

Dave