<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ron,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>That fileout has ProtoObject as the superclass, that needs to be replaced with InterpreterPlugin, I believe is the correct superclass - not InterpreterProxy.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Rob</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 12, 2006, at 9:01 AM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"> <DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Rob,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Thank you for that clarification. I thought that it was already included. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Tim, <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Since it is not part of the VMMaker can we have it included? What specifically do you need from us to make this happen? Does the plug-in need to be pulled out of our code and submitted separately? I attached an .st file of the plug-in.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Ron <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> <DIV> <DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt"> <HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"> </SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Robert Withers [<A href="mailto:reefedjib@yahoo.com">mailto:reefedjib@yahoo.com</A>] <BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:50 AM<BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">To:</SPAN></B> <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on"><A href="mailto:Ron@USMedRec.com">Ron@USMedRec.com</A></ST1:PERSONNAME>; <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">Cryptography Team Development List</ST1:PERSONNAME><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <A href="mailto:vm-dev@discuss.squeakfoundation.org">vm-dev@discuss.squeakfoundation.org</A><BR> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Cryptography Team] Include Cryptographic Primitives In VM's - DESPlugin</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Ron, I don't believe the DESPlugin is part of VMMaker. It is part of our DES package and it is confused about it's superclass. Steps to get the DESPlugin into an image with VMMaker:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">1) take 3.7 image, which has VMMaker loaded.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">2) load Cryptography package from SqueakMap (no <ST1:STATE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Monticello</ST1:PLACE></ST1:STATE> in 3.7)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">3) respecify the superclass of DESPlugin to be InterpreterProxy.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">4) run VMMaker and generate plugin<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">The 3.8/3.9 image has no VMMaker in it and the VMMaker on SqueakMap is in an inconsistent state.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">I hope this helps,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Robert<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">On Oct 12, 2006, at 6:52 AM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><BR> <BR> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><A href="http://bugs.impara.de/view.php?id=5228">http://bugs.impara.de/view.php?id=5228</A> : <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><O:P></O:P>Hans-Martin did some testing and as we expected the performance of pure squeak cryptography is disappointing: <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><O:P></O:P>Hans-Martin wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">"Ok, I did some measurements. Results are pretty disappointing.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Squeak on my AMD 3800+ processor encrypts 32 KBytes using 3DES CBC mode in about 8 seconds - unusable for anything but a proof-of-concept.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Therefore I think that DES (and maybe some other small cryptographic<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">primitives) should be part of the base VM."<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><O:P></O:P>The DESPlugin is already a part of the VMMaker, I am asking the VM group to please include the DESPlugin in the base VM that is distrubuted. We will be submitting more code and will follow the process of code -> VMMaker -> VM. If the VM team wants to wait before building a new VM's until other primitives are available, that is fine, but if a build is going to be done anyway for other issues, please include the DESPlugin.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><O:P></O:P>Thank you for your help!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Ron Teitelbaum<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Cryptography Team Leader<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">_______________________________________________<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt">Cryptography mailing list<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><A href="mailto:Cryptography@lists.squeakfoundation.org">Cryptography@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><A href="http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cryptography">http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cryptography</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> </DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> </DIV> </DIV> </O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><SPAN><DIV><DESPlugin.st></DIV></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>