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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Casey,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>This works for me. As long as Crypto is
visible and easily loadable I think the requirements are met. Any idea
when this "community supported packages" will become a reality?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Rob</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:casey.obrien.r@gmail.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:casey.obrien.r@gmail.com">Casey Ransberger</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:11 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] Cryptography in the main
image and Plugins build for theVMs</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>There is a plan that solves this problem using Monticello
configurations. We're calling them community supported packages. More info here:
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<DIV><A
href="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general/148414">http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general/148414</A></DIV>
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<DIV><A
href="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general/148414"></A>Basically,
you can keep your bits shipping as automatically loadable from Squeak where
version and dependency information is preserved. It's pretty sweet:)<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Rob Withers <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:reefedjib@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>reefedjib@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>--------------------------------------------------<BR>From:
"Steve Wart" <<A href="mailto:steve@wart.ca"
target=_blank>steve@wart.ca</A>><BR>Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:50
PM<BR>To: "Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion" <<A
href="mailto:vm-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org"
target=_blank>vm-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A>><BR>Cc: "Squeak Crypto"
<<A href="mailto:cryptography@lists.squeakfoundation.org"
target=_blank>cryptography@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A>>; "Squeak Dev"
<<A href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org"
target=_blank>squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
[Vm-dev] Cryptography in the main image and Plugins build for theVMs
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class=gmail_quote><BR>Given that cryptography still faces export
restrictions, would this<BR>cause problems for OSS distributions that want
to include Squeak?<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>I am not familiar with which
pieces of Cryptography are export restricted and which are not.
According to the Java SDK Crypto docs (<A
href="http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17476_01/javase/1.4.2/docs/guide/security/CryptoSpec.html#Architecture"
target=_blank>http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17476_01/javase/1.4.2/docs/guide/security/CryptoSpec.html#Architecture</A>)
DSA, MD5 and SHA-1 are at least distributable. This obviously reduces
the attractiveness of including Crypto in the image, were we to have to split
the package into exportable and non-exportable packages.
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class=gmail_quote>Also I'm not sure that people who want to minimize their
image size<BR>would benefit. Why can't Cryptography be easily loaded by
people who<BR>need it?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>People may not know where it
resides. It is not a part of the trunk. It is in a SqueakSource
repository.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><FONT color=#888888>Rob</FONT>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>Steve<BR><BR>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Rob
Withers <<A href="mailto:reefedjib@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>reefedjib@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>Hi all,<BR><BR>I would like to propose that
Cryptography be included as part of the image,<BR>by default. As it
stands now it is in the Cryptography repository, which<BR>most don't seem
to know about or there are one-off copies that are
developed<BR>separately. David Shaffer has been stewarding a
reintegration of these<BR>forks and ensuring the tests pass.
Everyone should be able to take<BR>advantage of the algorithms
provided by the Cryptography package.<BR><BR>Along the same lines, it
would be a great help for the vm providers to<BR>include the
CryptographyPlugins when they build a new vm. I believe there<BR>are
3 plugins and they really ought to be build internally, since they
are<BR>unchanging.<BR><BR>I would like to hear what others think of the
possibility of making this<BR>change.<BR><BR>Thank
you,<BR>Rob<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR
clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Casey Ransberger<BR></DIV>
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