[etoys-dev] Etoys: Etoys-Richo.103.mcz

[karl ramberg]

We should hook this up to the Viewer variable menu in
Player slotInfoButtonHitFor:inViewer:

'rename' and 'change value type' could be replaced by this panel.( I'm not
sure what to call it: Variable info ?)

I think it's good for consistency that we present just one panel to rename
and choose variable type.

Karl

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com>wrote:
>
>> Nice,  May want to add arrows to Type (similar to the way make sound
>> scripting tile works) to invite kids to click on it).
>
>
> Great idea, how about now?
>
> [image: NewVariableDialog.png]
>
> Cheers,
> Richo
>
>
>> Ed Team should think about Quick Guides on Variables, and perhaps balloon
>> help when you mouse over the variable types.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've made the following dialog using the PropertiesMorph as suggested.
>>>
>>> [image: NewVariableDialog.png]
>>>
>>> It opens by default when clicking on the "add new variable" button. I
>>> think this solution is better than the two modal dialogs and it also makes
>>> the different slot types a little more visible.
>>>
>>> I attached a change set if you want to test it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Richo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> This would be easy to do and it would be a great improvement, but I
>>>> don't think this dialog should be open by request. If I understood
>>>> correctly, the problem that originated this issue was that the slot types
>>>> other than #Number were difficult to find, so hiding this dialog won't
>>>> solve it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Richo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:07 PM, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Scott Wallace <
>>>>>> scott.wallace at squeakland.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Better, arguably, is to give a newly-launched variable a default
>>>>>>> name and a default value-type, and then also make it more straightforward
>>>>>>> and inviting to change the name and change the value-type, without needing
>>>>>>> to fish in menus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed. Something like:
>>>>>> [image: AddVariable I.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: AddVariable II.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe we should use the PropertiesMorphs for this ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also some of the variable types have additional spec
>>>>> Number and Point have 'decimal places...'
>>>>> Player have 'tiles to get...' ( I'm not really familiar with this)
>>>>>
>>>>> After reading Scotts mail I think this dialog should be presented by
>>>>> request, not by default.
>>>>> And that we bypass the 'FillInTheBlank' naming of variable in the
>>>>> first place ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> We did that a while ago in an internal vpri fork: add-variable gives
>>>>>>> you a variable with a default name and a value-type already provided; when
>>>>>>> and if desired, click on the variable name and text-edit to rename the
>>>>>>> variable; click on a little "value-type" icon to the right of the name to
>>>>>>> get a list of value-type choices.  No modal roadblocks to getting started,
>>>>>>> no fishing in menus to make changes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This improves the work-flow of add-a-variable quite a bit, and might
>>>>>>> be a good thing for squeakland as well.  However, it's probably too late in
>>>>>>> the development cycle of the imminent release to make such a change…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally we would have a group of kids we who could help test these
>>>>>> ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see a problem with waiting at this point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>
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