[etoys-notify] [JIRA] Commented: (SQ-616) It takes way too long for projects to be made "Public" (aka the Need for Speed)

[timothy (JIRA)]

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timothy commented on SQ-616:
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As for the "human needs to see it before it goes public" decision, this was a vote from the education team.  The general feeling was that the Scratch model wasn't good enough ... elementary teachers and administrators, particularly in developing countries, are quick to dismiss anything they see as possibly inappropriate.  They're very very conservative about this stuff.  The result is that the odd inappropriate project that gets through could turn off an entire school or district (or country!), which is worse than the "impatient kid" scenario you describe.

To give an example, recently we had an issue where two members of our ed team said they wouldn't use the showcase at all in their schools if we used the term "mojo", which was surprising to me and others.  This isn't likely something that would get caught by reviewers, but it does give an idea of the conservative nature of content in schools.

And it's important that this is largely elementary, not middle or high school, which is Scratch's primary audience.

> It takes way too long for projects to be made "Public" (aka the Need for Speed)
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>
>                 Key: SQ-616
>                 URL: http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-616
>             Project: squeakland
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: showcase
>            Reporter: Stephen Thomas
>            Priority: Critical
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> Yoshiki mad a comment on his "Conversation 2" project
> "For me a new project usually takes 3-5 business days to show up on Showcase, so I need to wait your remix"
> This is unacceptable and I think may drive people away from posting to the site, especially kids who will get frustrated and give up if it doesn't go public right away. Then you'll be left with stubborn pains in the ___ like me who think Etoys is a great tool for kids and won't give up until its done right!
> I'm all for protecting the kids, but frankly there are way more "bad thing" on the Web and in the world then the possibility of seeing something "improper" in a Etoys project on the Website. I won't go into what my at the time 10, 8 and 6 year kids saw on the Web when a friend was over and I wan't paying attention.
> When someone posts a project they want to see it right away and hopefully tell their friends about it. (note: this comment does not refer to me I have no friends I drove them all away with my rants ;)
> I apologize if I offended anyone (its just a "gift" I have ;) I just really care about making this great tool better and more widely used by kids.

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