I was thinking about a possible mission statement for Seaside that reads as following:<div><br></div><div>The goal of the Seaside project is to create a web development framework that makes</div><div>building both simple and complex web applications fun.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Just my 2 cents,</div><div><br></div><div>-Conrad<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Sebastian Sastre <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ssastre@seaswork.com">ssastre@seaswork.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">ok about the draft but it has not a mission on it. It has a description of what<br>
the artifact is.<br>
A mission is still missing.<br>
cheers,<br>
<font color="#888888">sebastian<br>
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> nombre de Lukas Renggli<br>
> Enviado el: Monday, May 18, 2009 04:22<br>
> Para: Seaside - developer list<br>
> Asunto: Re: [Seaside-dev] What is our Mission Statement?<br>
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</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> I started with an initial draft:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.seaside.st/about/mission" target="_blank">http://www.seaside.st/about/mission</a><br>
><br>
> Please feel free to comment, add, remove and change. It should reamin<br>
> short and to the point though.<br>
><br>
> Lukas<br>
><br>
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Philippe Marschall<br>
> <<a href="mailto:philippe.marschall@gmail.com">philippe.marschall@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > 2009/5/17 Sebastian Sastre <<a href="mailto:ssastre@seaswork.com">ssastre@seaswork.com</a>>:<br>
> >><br>
> >>> +1<br>
> >>> Examples:<br>
> >>> <a href="http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/makinggwtbetter.html" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/makinggwtbetter.html</a><br>
> >>> <a href="http://wicket.apache.org/vision.html" target="_blank">http://wicket.apache.org/vision.html</a><br>
> >>> <a href="http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5.1/" target="_blank">http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5.1/</a><br>
> >>><br>
> >>> > I am afraid, that if we try to satisfy everybody<br>
> >>> > we become indistinct.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> It's not the indistinct that worries but we simply don't have the<br>
> >>> resources to do it and we'd lose focus.<br>
> >>><br>
> >> if we succeed in satisfying everybody we become plain<br>
> mediocre not just indistinct. And as Philippe says, no<br>
> resources to even try it.<br>
> >> Also I found those examples mediocres. We should not<br>
> benchmark those. I can't read more than the first line of any<br>
> of those without having to puke due to technical stuff. I<br>
> don't want it to happen to the "seaside statement".<br>
> >> I know Seaside has everything to be much more than that.<br>
> >> Brutal truth: right now we suck because not only don't<br>
> have one statment, we have like 3 to 6 rotating statments<br>
> which, I'm sorry to the one who created it, comunication<br>
> skill sucks or it's a genious if the goal is to succeed in<br>
> confusing people about what the product is about.<br>
> >> The most powerful statement I've found is the one from<br>
> Yukihiro Matsumoto made for ruby.<br>
> >> Matz said "Ruby is designed to make programmers happy."<br>
> >> No bullshit + big focus + no technical crap = huge spread<br>
> capabilities.<br>
> >> If a statement like that can be created for seaside we'll<br>
> have chances of being marketed decently. Otherwise the<br>
> mission statement will born and remain invisible.<br>
> ><br>
> > I disagree. In my view the missing statement is for us so<br>
> that we can<br>
> > decide what should go in and what not.<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers<br>
> > Philippe<br>
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