Re[2]: [Seaside] Database

[Pablo Iaría]

Hi all,

   Where can I get Tantalus ?


Thanks,
    Pablo.-


Sunday, December 8, 2002, 6:10:49 PM, you wrote:

AL> Thanks for all your responses!

AL> So, I will probably go for Postgres with Tantalus and for BerkeleyDB to look
AL> at in some more detail.

AL> Stephen: I have the time to wait some weeks. What do you do ("ChangoPVM and
AL> database..")?

AL> Alain:
>> [...] On the persistance side, I was able to use Tantalus
>> with postgreSQL through ODBC on Mac OS X.
>> I have the project change set with all the modification if
>> it could help [...]

AL> Yes, please. This (the Postgres specific part) would probably be good to
AL> have in Tantalus (?). I think there will be other people using this...

AL> Adrian

AL> ----- Original Message -----
AL> From: "Alain Fischer" <alain.fischer@bluewin.ch>
AL> To: <seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org>
AL> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:19 PM
AL> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Database


AL> Hi Adrian,

AL> Squeak seem to have a lot of success in Bern.

AL> On the persistance side, I was able to use Tantalus with postgreSQL
AL> through ODBC
AL> on Mac OS X. I have the project change set with all the modification if
AL> it could help
AL> you, but I think you must fish for what you are interested in because,
AL> it has also
AL> modification even for glorp. I think the code explorer is a good tool
AL> for this.

AL> Your team project management tool seem interesting.

AL> Hope I see you in a nexter SqueakNic.
AL> Alain


AL> Le Vendredi 6 décembre 2002, à 10:11 , Adrian Lienhard a écrit :

>> Hi all
>>
>> What kind of databases do you use for your Seaside applications?
>>
>> The first question for me is if to use a Relational DB or a Object DB.
>> Most
>> of the time I don't have much data to store. But I would also want to be
>> prepared  for a project with much data and fulltext search queries.
>> What's
>> quite important is reliability. What would also be nice is if I could
>> access
>> the database from over ODBC (so it would be a RDB). Furthermore it
>> should be
>> accessible over the network. If a RDB then prferably Postgres
>>
>> What I found to be interesting (anything missing?)...
>>
>> O/R-Mappings:
>> -----------------
>> Tantalus
>> (http://www.whistler.com/aboutus/index.php?inc=tantalusDocs.inc)
>> maturity (from SqueakMap): "Useable by daredevils. Probably still full
>> of
>> bugs." So maybe not the the choice for productive apps(?)
>>
>> GLORP port
>> maturity: "Useable but still not stable, probably has bugs."
>> same as above
>>
>> Object DB
>> -------------
>> MinneStore (http://minnestore.sourceforge.net)
>> maturity: "Useable by all. Bugs are rare."
>> So, this seams to be interesting. Search queries..
>>
>> Magma
>> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2665
>> probably not tested in productive environments..(?)
>>
>> Other
>> --------
>> - Berkeley DB (http://www.sleepycat.com/). Plugin for Squeak:
>> http://spair.swiki.net/27 from Stephen Pair
>> The DB may be very good in some areas (according to the webpage..). But
>> eg.
>> for doing a fulltext search it's quite useless because all data would
>> have
>> to be loaded into the client application... And second, it can't be used
>> over the network.
>>
>> So, I really don't know... I think to tend to Postgres and try to use
>> Tantalus. On the other hand it would be probably more comfortable to
>> use a
>> object database.
>>
>> What are your experiences?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Adrian
>> _____________________
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