Neither Gardner nor SmallWiki on SqueakMap seem to want to install cleanly. Download a fresh 3.6 from squeak.org, then try it. Yeh, I can figure out the problems (although I haven't yet), but this is sure to stop a novice dead. Nevin -- Nevin Pratt Bountiful Baby http://www.bountifulbaby.com (801) 992-3137