[Seaside] seaside providers

Bob Houston bobh at agents.com
Tue Dec 7 23:52:23 CET 2004


I'd like to suggest an alternative "service" that could potentially 
solve this problem for several people on the list.

I, too, have been wondering if anyone was providing hosting services 
for Seaside apps, but after not finding any, I decided to look for an 
affordable co-lo site, and provide my own hardware to serve my apps.  
Then I realized that I really don't know how to do all the 
configuration stuff that is needed, and will need to do a fair amount 
of research to get my server up and running.

The "service" that I'm suggesting, is for someone to post detailed 
instructions that describe how to set-up the following:
1.  apache server conf
2.  ssl support
3.  load balancing to multiple seaside servers
4.  GOODS (or other database) config
5.  anything else recommended for a publicly accessible seaside app

I'm planning to use an Apple xserve or a rackmount Linux box to host my 
apps.  I'd really appreciate some pointers regarding how to set this 
up.

BTW,  I'm new to the seaside list, and may have missed this info.  If 
so, please fill free to email me off-list.  Also, I've configured 
apache (mod_proxy) to forward to my seaside app, but it took me a while 
to find the necessary info.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Bob

On Dec 7, 2004, at 12:36 PM, C. David Shaffer wrote:

> Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>
>> We thought about that a while ago to set up a professional seaside 
>> hosting here at netstyle.ch. The idea is to have a pre-installed 
>> system as it is typically used for a Seaside app. This would include 
>> GOODS, Postgres, ssh access, VNC and Apache for example. The 
>> infrastructure/bandwidth etc. is in place, what we would have to set 
>> up are some security restrictions.
>
> Yes, putting together a setup like this isn't difficult.  What's hard 
> is making it usable remotely.  I have a server on a T1 but VNCing from 
> my home via our Cable internet provider can be very laggy at times.  I 
> really can't say this enough times: "If you don't have physical or LAN 
> access to the server then be ready to build administrative interfaces 
> and develop a deployment technique which ensures no or few errors."  
> On the other hand it isn't that hard to set it up and test it with one 
> or two customers.  I just wouldn't try to sell it as a "general 
> Seaside solution" without a lot of tools added.  LiveWire looks like a 
> very promising part of such a toolset.
>
> David
>
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