[Seaside] call for testimonials

Michael Walter michael.walter at gmail.com
Fri Jan 7 17:42:29 CET 2005

What's the time frame for the new web page?

Curiously yours,

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:35:52 +0100, Avi Bryant <avi.bryant at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:02:50 -0500, Bob Houston <bobh at agents.com> wrote:
> > I'm fairly new to Seaside, and really like it so far (I've also not
> > used continuations before; great stuff).  As more newbies start using
> > Seaside, I'm sure they will have many of the same questions I have.
> > Specially, questions regarding licensing and support.
> Hi Bob,
> Hopefully the new website we're working on will make these things more
> clear.  For now, they're certainly frequently asked questions.
> Answers below:
> > Could someone point me to a description of the Seaside license?  Can I
> > use it to build commercial apps if I wish? If I happen to make some
> > money, are there any royalty or fees?
> As of the Seaside 2.5 release (which is currently in beta), Seaside
> will be under the MIT license.  This means you can use it to build
> commercial apps, royalty free, with no restrictions.  We did consider
> a model where using Seaside on commercial Smalltalks (like
> VisualWorks) would involve royalties and using it on Squeak would not,
> but ultimately I think the simplicity of a fully open license will
> provide the most benefit in the long run.
> Donations are, of course, always welcome.
> > Regarding support, if a newbie runs into a problem while building an
> > app, they might be tempted to stop using Seaside and switch to
> > something else (.net perhaps) if they are unable to resolve their
> > problem quickly enough.  The Seaside list is very responsive right now,
> > but if there were a significant increase in new Seaside users, all
> > asking basic questions, the signal to noise ratio on the list would
> > drop.   Also, how many people are doing Seaside consulting (for a fee)?
> >   I believe for the typical corporate developer, building a intranet
> > based app, they will need the option of "paying for help" if they are
> > unable to get their app to work.  Comments?
> I currently have support contracts with a couple of companies that are
> using Seaside in-house as you describe.  I also do development work on
> several client projects that are using Seaside.  If anyone could
> benefit from similar services, please do contact me.  There's a loose
> group of around 5 experienced Seaside developers that I've shared such
> work with in the past, so there's some capacity for scaling up, though
> if the work started coming in faster we'd want to set up something
> more formal.  I'm sure there are several others on this list that
> would be willing and able to do Seaside consulting as well - here's
> your chance to pipe up ;).
> HTH,
> Avi
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