[Seaside] Re: Java vs Squeak Page

[Adrian Sampaleanu]

You can also check out http://www.nextapp.com and
http://webonswing.sourceforge.net/xoops. They are closer to Seaside than
most other Java web app frameworks.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
> [mailto:seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf 
> Of Henrik Ekenberg
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:06 AM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; 
> seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Subject: [Seaside] Re: Java vs Squeak Page
> 
> I have check " http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/ " but it 
> is not the same
> 
> mvh
> HEnrik
> 
> On 6/10/05, Squeak Smalltalk <wallenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Seaside is nice. I have try www.tesuji.nu/calc My boss ask 
> me today if 
> > there is anythig like seaside in the Java world ?
> > 
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > W.
> > 
> > On 6/4/05, Dominique Dutoit <dominiqued at versateladsl.be> wrote:
> > > Your best bet is to make a live demo of how you are going 
> to debug 
> > > the application with Squeak and how painful to process is 
> when doing 
> > > the same with Java.
> > >
> > > I think that Smalltalk is all about how the developer and the 
> > > environment participate to achieve a goal and it is very 
> difficult 
> > > to convey that experience with articles and books. Java 
> is so remote 
> > > and looks like a mountain you are not allowed to climb 
> further than 
> > > its souvenirs shop, and you can't descent because so many 
> people are 
> > > rushing behind you.
> > >
> > > Anyway, good resources are:
> > >
> > > - http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/seaside/
> > >
> > > A gentle introduction to the challenge of developing web 
> application 
> > > without a state machine.
> > >
> > > - http://homepage.mac.com/svc/ADayAtTheBeach/
> > >
> > > A nice article explaining the development process of a 
> seaside-based 
> > > calculator.
> > >
> > > - 
> > > 
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside/2003-September/
> > > 002132.html
> > >
> > > A comparison between a weblog tool written with seaside and Java.
> > >
> > > - http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?
> > > showComments=true&entry=3261049347
> > >
> > > A report on a keynote given by Avi a while ago.
> > >
> > > - http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?JavaVsSmalltalk
> > >
> > > - http://www.smalltalkchronicles.net/edition3-1/whyjava.html
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I need to explain to one of my customer why they can use Squeak 
> > > > instead of Java in a new project.
> > > > "The project is a server based payment software."
> > > >
> > > > Do you have any good http pages ? So they can read and build an 
> > > > opinion ?
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > W.
> > > >
> > > > P.S I want to keep my customer so please "Smalltalk religious 
> > > > pages" ;)
> > >
> > >
> > 
> >
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