[Seaside] i am dreaming of ...
martin.schubert at informatik.uni-ulm.de
Thu Oct 20 03:14:26 UTC 2005
i was developing java webapps the last 2 years and got pain in the
ass from it. than via the ruby on rails hype and my enduring hope for
squeak to become a real production language i found seaside and the
continuation server approach a few weeks ago. first glimpses on them
made my heart beat faster and its relevance in delivering a solution
and answer to one big thing which drives the market since the last
and next years - WEB-Applications (in every flavour) - could become a
great chance to draw more people to it an maybe flush the whole
squeak/smalltalk scene ;-)
everything looks pretty cool but there are two very big issues which
prevents me from scripting as soon as possible and which i am now
dreaming of ...
1. one shoot deployment technique for seaside (on remote linux/unix
machines) : most internet servers are living far away from the admin
and the developers and talk linux/unix all day long. i found the
debian apt-get facillity to install squeak amazing. but i am missing
a command with which i can fire expressions to the running image and
administer the basic things like : port, admin, start/stop,
deployment of new webApps of seaside via command line or make the
whole squeakWorld displayable via a server process like x11.
2. a "built in" / or "packaged in" easy to use object database or
persistence facility, that i don`t have to care about all the
database choosing and connection set-up to the web-framework.
these to issues are very elegantly solved by the "ruby on rails"
webframework (easy deployment and persistence helpers built-in); and
which makes it so popular at the moment. but for me seaside appears
at least as good besides those points.
because i am new to seaside and not fluent on the squeakworld i would
be very grateful for any help or hints on these topics.
good night (its 5 am here in germany at the moment)
ps.: sorry for typos but i am not so good on writing english.
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