[Seaside] Re: Seaside & Ruby Rails Compared

Wilkes Joiner wilkesjoiner at gmail.com
Fri Sep 9 17:16:15 CEST 2005

I agree totally.  I haven't played with HttpView2, but I believe some
on the list mentioned mixing HV and Seaside in the same "app."  Does
anyone have any experience with the sort of thing?

On 9/9/05, Sean Malloy <smalloy at gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought I'd just butt on in and give my two cents on the Rails vs
> Seaside argument.
> IMHO, there is no argument. They attempt to solve two very different problems;
> Rails doesn't handle complex state. If you want to do that you have to
> start ajaxifying everything, and using the browser as a state
> management tool. Let me rephrase that. I'm sure Rails can handle lots
> of complex state, but its going to be up to you, the programmer, to
> implement the persistance and management of aid state. Rails apps?
> Think Blog Software, dump data display software.
> Seaside, as far as I can tell was _never_ intended to solve the basic
> CRUD style of development (Avi?). It was intended to assist a
> developer whose tasked with creating a complex web application which
> can easily build wizard like, multi-step apps where complex processes
> need to be captured, and still let you focus on the actual problem
> being addressed, and _not_ worry about state. Seaside apps? Think
> Airline Booking System.
> If you were building a "todo list" in Seaside, I would wonder why. I
> mean, its sort of like driving a Ferrari to the corner store.
> I'm sure I've offended someone!
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