[Seaside] My progress with Seaside...

Jeremy Shute shutej at crazilocks.com
Wed Jan 4 20:53:34 CET 2006

Excellent, bingo.  Thank you for this.

I notice there's some mod_lisp code in the tree.  Is it useable?


> On Jan 4, 2006, at 9:44 AM, Jeremy Shute wrote:
>> The chiefest of my problems right now is rendering speed, which I
>> misspoke
>> about.  The profiler numbers at the bottom show that it takes
>> ~350ms to
>> render a ~90K page.  If I search for something on Google (the "bar" in
>> terms of user experience) and tack on the &num=50 parameter (where
>> they
>> are pumping ~90K to me), it ALSO takes about ~350ms, but their
>> response
>> time is almost instantaneous!
>> It "feels" slow, but according to the numbers, it's the same.  I've
>> got to
>> investigate why.
> I suspect this is for one of two reasons, probably a combination of
> both:
> - Comanche doesn't offer a way to stream output back to the browser;
> the entire response has to be generated before the browser sees any
> of it.  With google, the browser is getting the top of the page
> immediately and can start showing it to you.  That makes a big
> difference in perceived speed.
> - Google is very lightweight in terms of Javascript and CSS, so the
> browser doesn't have to do much work to render the HTML, which again
> means that you can see something right away.
> The first problem should be solvable; I've been very careful in
> Seaside's API design not to prevent streaming, but we need to support
> it at the webserver level.  The second one is a tradeoff that has
> nothing to do with Seaside per se.
> Avi


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