[Seaside] [RFT] New web project

[Darius Clarke]

Ummm. I don't see the Web 2.0 in Joomla.

I don't see how Joomla makes it easier to integrate/digest content from
other web sites (XML & API calls, etc.).
I don't see how Joomla becomes an application generation platform (like
Rails).
Wouldn't your effort duplicate what Pier & Margarete do?
Avi is moving away from continuations toward persistence contained in the
AJAX client layer.
Check his blog. http://smallthought.com/avi/?p=14
Same as what Gilad
Bracha<http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/gbracha?entry=will_continuations_continue>said.

On 11/8/06, Germán Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Exactly today we've sended a mail to web2.0-smalltalk list to
> proposing aproximately the same, but using the tools that Diego GD is
> developing on top of Comet
> (http://smalltalk.consultar.com/wiki/doku.php).
>
> Sorry because both (the pages and the list) are in Spanish, but we can
> join efforts?
>
> Cheers.
> gsa.
>
> 2006/11/8, Jason Rogers <jacaetevha at gmail.com>:
> > Count me in!!! I have been thinking about this for a while.  My first
> > thoughts were to have Workspace scripting to create the initiail
> > pieces.  I was thinking that browser integration would be an add-on.
> >
> > On 11/5/06, Jason Johnson <jbjohns at libsource.com> wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I still have a ways to go on a few of my other projects, but I am
> close
> > > enough that I thought it might be a good time to start finding out who
> > > all would be interested in being involved in a project I want to do.
> > >
> > > Rails is getting a fair amount of exposure for being a frame work that
> > > easily does the CRUD that most web sites need in some form.  Joomla is
> a
> > > system that could be built on top of that, but isn't, it's in PHP.
> > > Joomla looks like the best system out there right now for setting up a
> > > web 2.0 site from scratch.  You can build the entire thing without
> doing
> > > any coding.  And lots of people (I mean *lots* of people) have written
> > > components for the system, so it can do most anything.
> > >
> > > But I think this could all be done in seaside.  And I think once it's
> in
> > > seaside it could be more successful.  It is one thing to write
> > > something, but it is something completely different to maintain it.  I
> > > can't believe it is easy to maintain a system as big as Joomla in a
> > > language like PHP.  And any language that doesn't have continuations
> is
> > > going to have to either simulate them manually, or do some other ugly
> > > hack to deal with how HTTP works.  So I think that if the system were
> > > done in seaside it would be a great deal less code, and therefor
> easier
> > > to maintain, extend, etc.
> > >
> > > So what I am looking for with this RFT (request for teamates :) )
> email
> > > is, who would be interested in working on a project with this as a
> > > goal?  The first thing that needs to be done is RoR (Rails)
> > > functionality needs to be developed in Seaside.  By that I don't mean
> > > make the system exactly.  I think we can do better: no command line
> > > stuff, no file editing.  Everything from the browser.  Then after
> that,
> > > I think the next thing would be a build up of components.  Something
> > > that the Joomla-like system can be built out of.  In the end we want
> > > people to be able to make any kind of site they want, without touching
> > > code, command lines or anything else more then absolutely
> necessary.  I
> > > have one last component to this that I think will be the killer app
> that
> > > makes this the system everyone will want, but I'm not going to mention
> > > that directly on the list (it will be a surprise hopefully :) ).
> > >
> > > So... Who else would be interested in being involved in this?  I know
> > > Warren has expressed interest.  I know a few others have expressed
> > > interest in seeing it happen. :)  The more people the better, because
> > > there is a lot of work to be done.  And the sooner the better.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jason
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> >
> > --
> > Jason Rogers
> >
> > "Where there is no vision, the people perish..."
> >     Proverbs 29:18
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