[Seaside] [RFT] New web project

Jason Johnson jbjohns at libsource.com
Thu Nov 9 06:46:06 UTC 2006


Wonderful.  Where is this web2.0-smalltalk list?  Is it in spanish as 
well?  But sure, I would love to see what you all are doing and see if 
it is a fit.  Even if it isn't I bet we can share a great deal of work.

Thanks for your email,
Jason

Germán Arduino wrote:
> Exactly today we've sended a mail to web2.0-smalltalk list to
> proposing aproximately the same, but using the tools that Diego GD is
> developing on top of Comet
> (http://smalltalk.consultar.com/wiki/doku.php).
>
> Sorry because both (the pages and the list) are in Spanish, but we can
> join efforts?
>
> Cheers.
> gsa.
>
> 2006/11/8, Jason Rogers <jacaetevha at gmail.com>:
>> Count me in!!! I have been thinking about this for a while.  My first
>> thoughts were to have Workspace scripting to create the initiail
>> pieces.  I was thinking that browser integration would be an add-on.
>>
>> On 11/5/06, Jason Johnson <jbjohns at libsource.com> wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I still have a ways to go on a few of my other projects, but I am 
>> close
>> > enough that I thought it might be a good time to start finding out who
>> > all would be interested in being involved in a project I want to do.
>> >
>> > Rails is getting a fair amount of exposure for being a frame work that
>> > easily does the CRUD that most web sites need in some form.  Joomla 
>> is a
>> > system that could be built on top of that, but isn't, it's in PHP.
>> > Joomla looks like the best system out there right now for setting up a
>> > web 2.0 site from scratch.  You can build the entire thing without 
>> doing
>> > any coding.  And lots of people (I mean *lots* of people) have written
>> > components for the system, so it can do most anything.
>> >
>> > But I think this could all be done in seaside.  And I think once 
>> it's in
>> > seaside it could be more successful.  It is one thing to write
>> > something, but it is something completely different to maintain it.  I
>> > can't believe it is easy to maintain a system as big as Joomla in a
>> > language like PHP.  And any language that doesn't have 
>> continuations is
>> > going to have to either simulate them manually, or do some other ugly
>> > hack to deal with how HTTP works.  So I think that if the system were
>> > done in seaside it would be a great deal less code, and therefor 
>> easier
>> > to maintain, extend, etc.
>> >
>> > So what I am looking for with this RFT (request for teamates :) ) 
>> email
>> > is, who would be interested in working on a project with this as a
>> > goal?  The first thing that needs to be done is RoR (Rails)
>> > functionality needs to be developed in Seaside.  By that I don't mean
>> > make the system exactly.  I think we can do better: no command line
>> > stuff, no file editing.  Everything from the browser.  Then after 
>> that,
>> > I think the next thing would be a build up of components.  Something
>> > that the Joomla-like system can be built out of.  In the end we want
>> > people to be able to make any kind of site they want, without touching
>> > code, command lines or anything else more then absolutely 
>> necessary.  I
>> > have one last component to this that I think will be the killer app 
>> that
>> > makes this the system everyone will want, but I'm not going to mention
>> > that directly on the list (it will be a surprise hopefully :) ).
>> >
>> > So... Who else would be interested in being involved in this?  I know
>> > Warren has expressed interest.  I know a few others have expressed
>> > interest in seeing it happen. :)  The more people the better, because
>> > there is a lot of work to be done.  And the sooner the better.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jason
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>>
>> -- 
>> Jason Rogers
>>
>> "Where there is no vision, the people perish..."
>>     Proverbs 29:18
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