[Seaside] [RFT] New web project
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Thu Nov 9 13:31:30 UTC 2006
You can see the web2.0smalltalk stuff in
On 11/9/06, Jason Johnson <jbjohns at libsource.com> wrote:
> Wonderful. Where is this web2.0-smalltalk list? Is it in spanish as
> well? But sure, I would love to see what you all are doing and see if
> it is a fit. Even if it isn't I bet we can share a great deal of work.
> Thanks for your email,
> Germán Arduino wrote:
> > Exactly today we've sended a mail to web2.0-smalltalk list to
> > proposing aproximately the same, but using the tools that Diego GD is
> > developing on top of Comet
> > (http://smalltalk.consultar.com/wiki/doku.php).
> > Sorry because both (the pages and the list) are in Spanish, but we can
> > join efforts?
> > Cheers.
> > gsa.
> > 2006/11/8, Jason Rogers <jacaetevha at gmail.com>:
> >> Count me in!!! I have been thinking about this for a while. My first
> >> thoughts were to have Workspace scripting to create the initiail
> >> pieces. I was thinking that browser integration would be an add-on.
> >> On 11/5/06, Jason Johnson <jbjohns at libsource.com> wrote:
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > I still have a ways to go on a few of my other projects, but I am
> >> close
> >> > enough that I thought it might be a good time to start finding out who
> >> > all would be interested in being involved in a project I want to do.
> >> >
> >> > Rails is getting a fair amount of exposure for being a frame work that
> >> > easily does the CRUD that most web sites need in some form. Joomla
> >> is a
> >> > system that could be built on top of that, but isn't, it's in PHP.
> >> > Joomla looks like the best system out there right now for setting up a
> >> > web 2.0 site from scratch. You can build the entire thing without
> >> doing
> >> > any coding. And lots of people (I mean *lots* of people) have written
> >> > components for the system, so it can do most anything.
> >> >
> >> > But I think this could all be done in seaside. And I think once
> >> it's in
> >> > seaside it could be more successful. It is one thing to write
> >> > something, but it is something completely different to maintain it. I
> >> > can't believe it is easy to maintain a system as big as Joomla in a
> >> > language like PHP. And any language that doesn't have
> >> continuations is
> >> > going to have to either simulate them manually, or do some other ugly
> >> > hack to deal with how HTTP works. So I think that if the system were
> >> > done in seaside it would be a great deal less code, and therefor
> >> easier
> >> > to maintain, extend, etc.
> >> >
> >> > So what I am looking for with this RFT (request for teamates :) )
> >> email
> >> > is, who would be interested in working on a project with this as a
> >> > goal? The first thing that needs to be done is RoR (Rails)
> >> > functionality needs to be developed in Seaside. By that I don't mean
> >> > make the system exactly. I think we can do better: no command line
> >> > stuff, no file editing. Everything from the browser. Then after
> >> that,
> >> > I think the next thing would be a build up of components. Something
> >> > that the Joomla-like system can be built out of. In the end we want
> >> > people to be able to make any kind of site they want, without touching
> >> > code, command lines or anything else more then absolutely
> >> necessary. I
> >> > have one last component to this that I think will be the killer app
> >> that
> >> > makes this the system everyone will want, but I'm not going to mention
> >> > that directly on the list (it will be a surprise hopefully :) ).
> >> >
> >> > So... Who else would be interested in being involved in this? I know
> >> > Warren has expressed interest. I know a few others have expressed
> >> > interest in seeing it happen. :) The more people the better, because
> >> > there is a lot of work to be done. And the sooner the better.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Jason
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> >> Jason Rogers
> >> "Where there is no vision, the people perish..."
> >> Proverbs 29:18
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