[Seaside] [RFT] New web project

[Jason Johnson]

Hrm. :)  I had planned to learn spanish at some point, but I need to get 
better at german first. :)

Pablo Iaria wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
> You can see the web2.0smalltalk stuff in
>
> - http://smalltalk.consultar.com/wiki/doku.php
> - http://groups.google.es/group/web20-smalltalk
>
> Pablo.-
>
>
> On 11/9/06, Jason Johnson <jbjohns at libsource.com> wrote:
>> Wonderful.  Where is this web2.0-smalltalk list?  Is it in spanish as
>> well?  But sure, I would love to see what you all are doing and see if
>> it is a fit.  Even if it isn't I bet we can share a great deal of work.
>>
>> Thanks for your email,
>> Jason
>>
>> Germán Arduino wrote:
>> > Exactly today we've sended a mail to web2.0-smalltalk list to
>> > proposing aproximately the same, but using the tools that Diego GD is
>> > developing on top of Comet
>> > (http://smalltalk.consultar.com/wiki/doku.php).
>> >
>> > Sorry because both (the pages and the list) are in Spanish, but we can
>> > join efforts?
>> >
>> > Cheers.
>> > gsa.
>> >
>> > 2006/11/8, Jason Rogers <jacaetevha at gmail.com>:
>> >> Count me in!!! I have been thinking about this for a while.  My first
>> >> thoughts were to have Workspace scripting to create the initiail
>> >> pieces.  I was thinking that browser integration would be an add-on.
>> >>
>> >> On 11/5/06, Jason Johnson <jbjohns at libsource.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hello all,
>> >> >
>> >> > I still have a ways to go on a few of my other projects, but I am
>> >> close
>> >> > enough that I thought it might be a good time to start finding 
>> out who
>> >> > all would be interested in being involved in a project I want to 
>> do.
>> >> >
>> >> > Rails is getting a fair amount of exposure for being a frame 
>> work that
>> >> > easily does the CRUD that most web sites need in some form.  Joomla
>> >> is a
>> >> > system that could be built on top of that, but isn't, it's in PHP.
>> >> > Joomla looks like the best system out there right now for 
>> setting up a
>> >> > web 2.0 site from scratch.  You can build the entire thing without
>> >> doing
>> >> > any coding.  And lots of people (I mean *lots* of people) have 
>> written
>> >> > components for the system, so it can do most anything.
>> >> >
>> >> > But I think this could all be done in seaside.  And I think once
>> >> it's in
>> >> > seaside it could be more successful.  It is one thing to write
>> >> > something, but it is something completely different to maintain 
>> it.  I
>> >> > can't believe it is easy to maintain a system as big as Joomla in a
>> >> > language like PHP.  And any language that doesn't have
>> >> continuations is
>> >> > going to have to either simulate them manually, or do some other 
>> ugly
>> >> > hack to deal with how HTTP works.  So I think that if the system 
>> were
>> >> > done in seaside it would be a great deal less code, and therefor
>> >> easier
>> >> > to maintain, extend, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > So what I am looking for with this RFT (request for teamates :) )
>> >> email
>> >> > is, who would be interested in working on a project with this as a
>> >> > goal?  The first thing that needs to be done is RoR (Rails)
>> >> > functionality needs to be developed in Seaside.  By that I don't 
>> mean
>> >> > make the system exactly.  I think we can do better: no command line
>> >> > stuff, no file editing.  Everything from the browser.  Then after
>> >> that,
>> >> > I think the next thing would be a build up of components.  
>> Something
>> >> > that the Joomla-like system can be built out of.  In the end we 
>> want
>> >> > people to be able to make any kind of site they want, without 
>> touching
>> >> > code, command lines or anything else more then absolutely
>> >> necessary.  I
>> >> > have one last component to this that I think will be the killer app
>> >> that
>> >> > makes this the system everyone will want, but I'm not going to 
>> mention
>> >> > that directly on the list (it will be a surprise hopefully :) ).
>> >> >
>> >> > So... Who else would be interested in being involved in this?  I 
>> know
>> >> > Warren has expressed interest.  I know a few others have expressed
>> >> > interest in seeing it happen. :)  The more people the better, 
>> because
>> >> > there is a lot of work to be done.  And the sooner the better.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Jason
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>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jason Rogers
>> >>
>> >> "Where there is no vision, the people perish..."
>> >>     Proverbs 29:18
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