[Seaside] Dev toolbar in IE

Boris Popov boris at deepcovelabs.com
Fri Oct 6 20:02:56 UTC 2006


Here are few reasons why I personally find Firefox as a best tool for
development (that's not to say some of these tools don't exist for IE
though),

- TABS! :)
- Less quirks in treating Web Standards compliant XHTML (Strict) and CSS
- DOM inspector
- JavaScript console
- JavaScript debugger
   - http://www.mozilla.org/projects/venkman/
- Web Developer toolbar
   - http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/

Our designer tests the visual aspects against the variety of browsers
before delivering the markup and CSS, I test everything else on various
versions of IE, Firefox and Opera, but I never use IE in the normal
course of development.

To sum it up, just because there's no reliable way to get the toolbar to
stick to the bottom of the screen in IE, don't discount Seaside as
'incapable', this one is really IE's fault.

Hope this helps,

-Boris

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Teitelbaum [mailto:Ron at USMedRec.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:55 PM
To: Boris Popov; 'The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general
discussion.'
Subject: RE: [Seaside] Dev toolbar in IE

Hi Boris!

I see the browser as the end product for testing.  I'm not even to the
point
yet of testing code on other browsers, but I do stay away from any code
that
says it may be an issue and especially anything that may be in issue for
IE.
(I was planning on using AJAX until I saw that IE 6.0 may not support it
if
active x is turned off [which happens frequently]) So my question:  Why
would it matter which browser is used for development?  

Ron 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Popov [mailto:boris at deepcovelabs.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 3:30 PM
> To: Ron at USMedRec.com; The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server -
general
> discussion.
> Subject: RE: [Seaside] Dev toolbar in IE
> 
> This is in development only though, and I tend to side with Philippe,
no
> serious web developer is using IE for anything other than testing,
where
> the toolbar is disabled anyhow :)
> 
> -Boris
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Ron
> Teitelbaum
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:13 PM
> To: 'The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion.'
> Subject: RE: [Seaside] Dev toolbar in IE
> 
> I don't get this!  Since IE is still > 50% of the market how can you
> ignore
> it?
> 
> > From: Philippe Marschall
> >
> > It never did. But then, which web dev uses IE anyway?
> >
> > Philippe
> >
> > 2006/10/6, Boris Popov <boris at deepcovelabs.com>:
> > > Is it just me or the toolbar doesn't stick to the bottom of the
> screen
> > > anymore in IE?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > -Boris
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