[Seaside] Why seaside really sucks! COMMMMMMMENTS are MISSING

Todd Blanchard tblanchard at mac.com
Fri Apr 6 14:55:09 UTC 2007

So what are the mechanics of submitting comments?

On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:31 PM, stephane ducasse wrote:

> This is not easy for me to say that because I appreciate the work  
> of Avi, Lukas and Philippe.
> But I'm sorry to say that but seaside sucks! Not because of the  
> code or the concepts.
> But because there is really not enough comments. Really! It is  
> really difficult to understand a simple
> method is doing and if it makes sense to specialize it.
> This is TERRIBLE since I think that I'm a good programmer but  
> seaside code prevents me to
> be fully efficient. I have to guess try and error and guess again.  
> I have to ask stupid questions to the mailing-list
> while I would prefer to use it for  interesting questions. I think  
> that seaside goes even against the philosophy of
> Smalltalk (a system that someone alone can understand) because this  
> total lacks of
> comments is TRAPPING me. I cannot use my skills full speed. Thanks  
> what a great feeling.
> pleaseeeeeee do not tell me to read the code or to use senders!  
> This is really the worse answer I can get.
> I always hated this kind of answer on smalltalk forums.
> (Please do not ask me what I'm doing to improve the situation  
> because people knows what I did
> for seaside and Smalltalk already.)
> I think that as a community we should do something especially since  
> we have monticello
> and comments could be easily merged.
> I pushed a lot seaside and I'm trying to push it again further but  
> come on we should WAKE UP!
> I would really like that people with knowledge helps improving the  
> situation.
> So if you think that seaside is cool and it is worth more, spend 30  
> min of your precious time and
> add comments, help lukas and the other to make Seaside really a  
> habitable piece of code.
> Comments are for people that do not know or remember. So if you  
> really want to make the community
> grow you know what you should do. But may be it is better that  
> seaside stays a cool program for a nice and
> private club after all.
> Stef
> PS: I should say that filelibrary is a good start at documenting a  
> functionality. May be adding method comments
> would help there too.
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